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Trading card sellers - do better

I buy a lot of cards off this platform. Lately more and more cards are shipping untracked, poorly packaged, and incredibly slow. If a $3.00 sale is too much work, don't sell it. 

As a seller here, I understand the hassle of selling low-cost items.  Sellers are willing to ship a card in a PWE with little protection but then refund when the card arrives damaged? Take a few seconds and ship it properly and keep the money!  

Shipping untracked opens a whole other can of worms. I want to be able to track something to see it's progress. I recently bought 8 cards - the seller sent 4 cards with tracking and 4 untracked. I never received the untracked cards. Why????

8 cards is ok to ship in one envelope, considering i received 15 cards in one envelope before.

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'untracked'...Shipping inexpensive items do not need tracking.

Do we have tracking when we get a bill from a company, social security check to a retired person, a greeting card, newly issued credit card, etc. etc.

Do we use tracking when we pay a bill by check or money order or send a greeting card to someone.

You have the option of not buying from sellers who do not have tracking buy give 'free shipping'.

As far as sellers not using some protection for shipping of cards I do agree those sellers should not be selling cards at all.

 

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@12345jamesstamps wrote:

'untracked'...Shipping inexpensive items do not need tracking.

Do we have tracking when we get a bill from a company, social security check to a retired person, a greeting card, newly issued credit card, etc. etc.

Do we use tracking when we pay a bill by check or money order or send a greeting card to someone.

You have the option of not buying from sellers who do not have tracking buy give 'free shipping'.

As far as sellers not using some protection for shipping of cards I do agree those sellers should not be selling cards at all.

 


You sell stamps. Children and teenagers don't buy stamps. Thus you get almost no false claims.

 

The ESE is not for the buyers it is for the sellers. Before standard envelope it was usual to get a rate of 1 percent to 15 percent of card customers claim to not receive their cards. The percent was almost exactly pegged to maturity level of the people buying the cards. Sports cards, maybe 1 percent, Magic cards 3 percent and then once the cards got into "Anime" territory such as Pokemon or Yugioh it would go to the 10 percent plus range on claims.

 

For the first 2 months of standard envelope I was still getting the same number of claims at the same exact percentages except, shock, gasp, all those cards were actually getting delivered and the customers were just lying.  Then they figured out that they couldn't get free unlimited cards anymore and the number of missing items claims quickly went to a level of 1 order in 500+.

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@12345jamesstamps wrote:

@12345jamesstamps wrote:

'untracked'...Shipping inexpensive items do not need tracking.

Do we have tracking when we get a bill from a company, social security check to a retired person, a greeting card, newly issued credit card, etc. etc.

Do we use tracking when we pay a bill by check or money order or send a greeting card to someone.

You have the option of not buying from sellers who do not have tracking buy give 'free shipping'.

As far as sellers not using some protection for shipping of cards I do agree those sellers should not be selling cards at all.

 



Apples and oranges.  That which you mention in the form of bills..................  well, they don't need tracking. (although many are actually "metered mail")  They are not "sold" merchandise that would be desirable to have some sort of accountability for.

 

ESE provides that accountability at a cost less than that of a 1st Class stamp. (and yes, we know that you get stamps at a considerable discount, so deflection pointing that out is not necessary as most eBay sellers do not buy stamps in bulk at a reduced price)

 

You know that ESE gets some scanning (is supposed to) along the way so it is desirable to do so for at least a bit of seller protection as provided by eBay ESE insurance.

 

Also seems that per flippers post that statistically it has some positive effect, so not needed, but desirable. Log that thought in. Consider it.

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@harborauction

 

@buyselljack2016 

 

Perhaps @funkyfreshmike.2013 could clarify what shipping service had been initially offered by the seller, who then sent the card by ESE, resulting in the OP dropping a neutral on his feedback.

 

Et tu, @funkyfreshmike.2013 ?

 

 

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Why would you make the purchase if you thought $4 was too much for shipping?

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I agree with you on this 1,000%.

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You got a like for "Rube Goldberg". Well done! 

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@harborauction wrote:

Just depends on what shipping service was shown in the listing, if ESE was the advertised method of shipping and price was $5 no one lied

 

My son did this a while back against my advice when he found a batch of old pokeman cards and listed them here. He's not a regular ebay user and he shipped via ESE & charged $5. I wouldn't 


Then he is smarter than 'a regular' ebay user.   

I would ship by ESE and charge $10 if I could.

I overcharge shipping all the time.  I get anywhere from $1 to $1.50 profit on each shipment.

Why?   Because 'profit' is not a dirty word in my home.   We are all capitalists.  Devout.

 

If someone sold me something for $15 including shipping and it arrived in good condition and in a timely manner I'd be ok/fine.

If someone sold me something for $10 and $5 shipping and it arrived in good condition and in a timely manner, I'd be just ok/fine.

 

I really don't like judgmental people.  You know, the sour-puss type that stands back and screws up their face, taps their foot and judges the way you live and do things - that make NO difference to anyone.  I really do NOT like judges, especially unelected and unqualified ones. 

 

 

 

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I have also sold Star Trek trading cards in past without a problem.

I managed to get 4 cards in an envelope with thin cardboard for a forever stamp.

And I also had International Buyers using just a forever International stamp.

Have not had anything lost in years...and yet some with ESE have. Why is that?

ESE insurance is good...although you don't get that refund immediately.

As far as something ESE lost...it probably just didn't get a delivered 'scan'...even though the buyer received it and decided to ask for a refund.

 

 

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Have not had anything lost in years...and yet some with ESE have. Why is that?

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apparently, you live a charmed life. The shipping gods look down upon you in awe bowing to your extreme magnificence

 

ETA: would have added one more word that "Walter" would say, but it would have been bleeped ðŸ˜‚

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