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The straw that broke the camels back

For years i have endured and followed the rules and all the asundry other obsticles that eBay has hobbled us sellers with.

And like my favorite teacher in school said " change there will always be change keep up with it and you will be good"

Well eBay has just sent me a message saying my product identifiers are not valid or included and  my listings will not be shown .

 i get maybe  5% of the views i get from local venues such as offerup , 5miles , etc. while here i have to offer 5 year returns and free coffee with every purchase.

 Well you know what eBay i have had it i am through buying here as well .

You used to be my first place to look when i needed or wanted something.

( Now in the last month alone i have had to open 6 cases on sellers who  after i buy and pay a day later i get a message from you eBay saying the itemi was interested in is not longer available and the seller is no longer a registered seller ). so the seller has my money i have no product i have to wait 4 days to start a case then i have to wait a week for the non seller to not respond then i have to  get back intouch with you eBay  so i can get my money back after 10 DAYS! Between  this the fees and the non visibility and the ridiculous rules now i see you as a joke  some place that used to be serious about service and selling.

 So tell me eBay why am i here?

to argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to a dead person .
Thomas paine
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@blokschmok_0

 

I am in no way trying to give you a hard time.  I'm unsure as to why you are unwilling to read the links for yourself, but that is your decision to make.  None of us can help those that refuse to be helped.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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I don't care about the links.   Just help me find the barcodes on the items I posted pictures of.

 

If you think this is really a good idea, then offer your help.  I'm asking for your help earnestly.

 

Please show me with a Red Circle or a Big Red Arrow, where to find the barcodes on these brand new items.  It will help people like me, and other sellers as well, when it is time to list.  

And also when our listings get canceled.  We will know where to find that information for next time.

 

So Please show me.

 

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@penguins_dont_fly wrote:


Used items do not require a "Bar Code" or UPC.

 


 

The only used item are the Baseballs.  All the rest are Brand New, and you know that.

 

So none of the rest of what you said will work and all of those listings will be removed from the system when they go to relist after 30 days.

 

So I am also asking you for your assistance to help me locate the barcodes.

 

Since you're such an expert,  please circle the location of the barcodes on all of these brand new items.

 

I am asking very nicely for help from you.

 

 

 

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@blokschmok_0 wrote:

@penguins_dont_fly wrote:


Used items do not require a "Bar Code" or UPC.

 


 

The only used item are the Baseballs.  All the rest are Brand New, and you know that.

 

I'm sorry ... How am I supposed to "know that"? There are no indications on any of those random pictures of items that indicate that they are brand-new, used or other 😞

 

So none of the rest of what you said will work and all of those listings will be removed from the system when they go to relist after 30 days.

 

So I am also asking you for your assistance to help me locate the barcodes.

 

Since you're such an expert,  please circle the location of the barcodes on all of these brand new items.

 

 I am by no means an expert ... are these your items? Somebody elses?  If they are somebody else's listings, then the seller would probably be able to tell you what the UPC, Brand, Model and MPN are (nobody is looking for a "barcode" .. that thing with vertical lines that gets scanned ... ebay is looking for Product Identifiers)

 

On the gloves, the make and model might be on the tag on the inside ... on all other items, the seller would have the UPC from the manufacturer or their supplier available , supposedly.

 

 

I am asking very nicely for help from you.

 

 Using sarcastic remarks is not "asking nicely" in my neck of the woods 😞 I was trying to be helpful.

 

Why are you attacking the folks that are just trying to help you?

 


 

penguins_dont_fly is a Volunteer Community Mentor
Buying and Selling since 2013

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Dear ebay mascot: You are way to smart for advise and have not lived ebay for 18 years. You love change and must be one that sells the same 3 ounce widget over and over, and over. Do you go to the conventions too and get to vote. You are not the average person trying to deal with changes on ebay. Ebay does not inform sellers well. They have things happen that they can not explain, they can not fix things when it goes wrong, they can not communicate from Southeast Asia Call Centers. So continue on doing what works for you. And never expect ebay to be a positive environment for sellers unless it is in there financial interest. Example ebay allowing to be hacked a few years back. And treating sellers as if they gave the access to thieves on credit cards, bank accounts, paypal info. Then treating ebay members as if they were the thieves instead of a good business partner.
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In my experience, ebay has been terrible for both sellers and buyers. I'm both, I sell and I buy. To give you an example, just recently I was scammed by a seller. I purchased these two items and some three - four days later I noticed that he didn't update any shipping info, didn't answer messages or leave feedback, etc.. and then his account was deleted.

So I check my Recent Purchases page and realize that there's no option to cancel these orders, report these sales as scams and to get my money back. So the only thing I could do was to log onto paypal and try to get my money back from on there. I open a case, the paypal rep messages me back, she's clueless what I'm talking about even though I was very specific an all. But eventually in about a week or so I was able to get my money back.

However, ebay didn't seem to like what I did. Because then, almost immediately after, they started holding all my payments for 22 days. For the past several weeks they've been holding my payments. I complain and all, but they won't even give a reason as to why they're withholding payments for so long (the reason is that they were told my ebay to do so, because all other payments come in just fine, but they'll never admit to this).

Also... don't mind some of the more aggressive posts directed at you. They're just sellers who have a general dislike for buyers because they've had that one bad experience.

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Posts like yours are like biographic historical books-read by two year olds.

Good Moms let you lick the Beaters.

Great Moms turn them off first.
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At least you are selfaware.

to argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to a dead person .
Thomas paine
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Under no circumstance does Ebay allow anyone to "delete" a member account.  They may get closed, but they are not "deleted".  Ebay also does not let a seller close their account within 90 days of their last transaction as a seller.  Even if the seller has done something that makes Ebay want to close their account, they will just restrict them from selling but they do NOT close the account until 90 days has past after the last transaction as a seller so that buyers have time to communicate or resolve problems with the seller.

 

It is very difficult for seller's to scam buyers.  All the buyer needs to do if there is an issue that the seller is not working with you to resolve is open a Request for return.  Once the buyer does that, the money is placed on hold in PP so that the seller can not use it.  It remains on hold until the issue is resolved one way or the other.

 

Buyers can not cancel orders.  They have never been able to do that.  You can request a cancellation through your seller, but buyers are not allowed to cancel transactions themselves.

 

Why would a PP CSR not know what a "claim" is?  What specifically were you describing to them?

 

"However, ebay didn't seem to like what I did. Because then, almost immediately after, they started holding all my payments for 22 days."  Ebay doesn't care if you file a claim.  If as a buyer you have the need to file a claim because you have a seller that is not working with you, then you need to open a claim.  It isn't an abnormal thing.  With that said, Ebay nor PP would but a hold on every payment you sent to various sellers for 22 days.  They just don't do that.  If PP thought there was a significant risk to how you fund your payments, they would just suspend you.  Placing a 22 day hold on payments you make would hurt your sellers far more than it would you.  For many reasons, this is just something PP doesn't do.

 

Now if you are the seller with payments you are received on a 22 day PP hold, that is a normal course of business if you are a new seller or a seller that has not sold for a long time and recently fired back up.  Ebay does this for good reasons and it help cut down on scam sellers that may come her to make a quick buck.  There are ways in which you can lessen than 21 day hold as a seller as well.  But until you get at least 10 current FB as a seller, PP will continue to hold your money for 21 days.  It is in the rules and it applies to ALL new sellers.  Complaining won't help.  This is a very good rule and it should be in place. 

 

"They're just sellers who have a general dislike for buyers because they've had that one bad experience."  That would be an extremely small percentage of sellers.  If a seller dislikes all their buyers, then it might be time to rethink what they are doing.  This does NOT represent the vast majority of sellers.

 


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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