mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
Yes, a sell similar is like a 'new' listing, which is why it reverts to the ORIGINAL qty.
And as I said, the sales 'history' MAY indeed follow the listing behind the scenes, but ONLY GTC actually SHOW that history ON the listing.
I don't need "refreshing".
OK, well now we are back to where I started when you disagreed with me. I'm glad it all worked out.
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
Relist has NEVER retained the "sales history". Ever.
Ok, I just took one for the team on an item I had ended that had previous sales on it and wasted one of my listings for the month... Mam, you and I have disagreed in the past on how reslisted, sell similar and revised listings keep history and reindex. FWIW, my reslisted, previous history listing did NOT retain any of the views or any of the sales history at least on the surface. No sales, no views, nothing. I did already end the listing because it was a dog and I wanted to use sell similar and revise so it absolutely would NOT retain any of the woof woof history if that is something that goes on on the back end of listings.
I'm not sure why it is important to try represent what I originally posted on the subject to be different than what I said. I'm pretty good about saying what I mean. Granted sometimes I could most certainly word things better. And maybe this is one of those cases.
I believe my first post on this subject was post #7 on this thread and I said " The relist retains the views and sales history on the listing. While a buyer won't see that information, it is there or so Ebay has said for years." So you are saying the same thing, just using different words.
@ozarkjoe wrote:I am still confused on this OOS thing and I am trying to play around with it right now. I went to settings and enabled OOS. I clicked on the Apply button but there is no visible sign that it worked. There is no toggle switch that shows that it is in effect. I also had vacation settings turned on so maybe that screwed things up. I've looked at the other threads on this subject and I still don't get it. I have one of a kind items. Can OOS make the current listings disappear while I add new items? I used to rotate inventory while living at two different cities throughout the year. Items at one location would expire and then I would list the other items at my new location. I can't do that anymore with GTC unless I end all of my listings and then relist them again weeks later. Am I missing something here?
Let me restate this: I want to suspend 1000 items and then list 300 new items for 10 days. Can OOS do this for me?
There wouldn't be until it was needed.
I'm not sure why you would want to pay for listings that are OOS if you only sell OOAK.
The OOS function will NOT make listings disappear that have a quantity available on them in the searches.
OOS = out of stock. So when you have an item that gets purchased and the quantity on that listing drops to ZERO available, then the listing will stay active, but run in the background. You can see it in the Seller Hub but buyers can't see the listing. When you get more stock in, you add that stock to the listing and it then becomes active again. Buyers can see it.
All the time that a listing is running in the OOS mode [no inventory to sell], you do pay for that listing if it renews during the time it is OOS. So I really don't see why with only OOAK listings why you would even consider using the OOS function.
These links may help you.
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/listing-tips/bulk-listings?id=4160#outofstock
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
Relist has NEVER retained the "sales history". Ever.
Ok, I just took one for the team on an item I had ended that had previous sales on it and wasted one of my listings for the month... Mam, you and I have disagreed in the past on how reslisted, sell similar and revised listings keep history and reindex. FWIW, my reslisted, previous history listing did NOT retain any of the views or any of the sales history at least on the surface. No sales, no views, nothing. I did already end the listing because it was a dog and I wanted to use sell similar and revise so it absolutely would NOT retain any of the woof woof history if that is something that goes on on the back end of listings.
I'm not sure why it is important to try represent what I originally posted on the subject to be different than what I said. I'm pretty good about saying what I mean. Granted sometimes I could most certainly word things better. And maybe this is one of those cases.
I believe my first post on this subject was post #7 on this thread and I said " The relist retains the views and sales history on the listing. While a buyer won't see that information, it is there or so Ebay has said for years." So you are saying the same thing, just using different words.
What I SAID exactly was:
Mam, you and I have disagreed in the past on how reslisted, sell similar and revised listings keep history and reindex.
This is a factual statement. I will not bother to go search the board for that thread. You and I MAY be saying the same thing in THIS thread, but that isn't the same as was said in another thread. Sometimes it is very frustrating trying to keep up.
Then there has been a miscommunication or misunderstanding somewhere as I've NEVER said anything other than I've said here about relisted items. If the relist function is used, the sales history and the views from the listing that is being relisted follows the listing to be my knowledge. But it does not appear on the relisted listing that buyers can see.
@pjcdn2005 wrote:I’ve personally never seen anything from eBay that says relists retain sales history, views etc on their end either. I’m not saying that they havent said it, just that I’m not aware of it if they have.
Me either. Not that I've ever found. It was one of those unwritten things. Now this is not to say that something hasn't changed and I'm not aware of it. It could have changed a long time ago and I didn't know it. Especially since there was no written rule in the first place.
There is a reason for two different functions, Relist and Sell Similar. If they both function the same, there is no need to have two different functions.
@mam98031 wrote:
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
I'm pretty sure ebay keeps selling data "behind the scenes" on any listing. But most of us view "sales history" for buyer's info as what's shown ON the listing itself.
AFAIA relist keeps the ended qty, while sell similar reverts to the original qty - that's about the only difference I've ever seen, apart from a relist showing as such to any watchers.On Relists, yes. On Sell Similar NO. A sell similar is like creating a completely new listing. All numbers are fresh and never used.
On a relisted listing or a renewed listing, the views and sales history follow the listing. Or at least that is how it use to be. I think we need to be refreshed on how it is handled in Ebay currently. It would be good information for all of us to have.
@Anonymous
Hi @mam98031, happy to clarify. Using Sell Similar would create a brand new listing where the seller can input their available quantity. For a relist, the process varies depending on what quantity was available at the time that the listing ended:
- For listings that had a quantity of one or more, the listing will relist with the quantity that was available when the listing ended.
- For listings that had a quantity of 0, relisting the item would reset it to the original quantity.
Of course, a seller is able to edit this as needed 
As for views and watchers, these will be retained anytime the item number is retained. If your listing still has the same item number, then it is still benefiting from it's history of engagement (views, watchers, sales history, etc.).
@Anonymous wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
I'm pretty sure ebay keeps selling data "behind the scenes" on any listing. But most of us view "sales history" for buyer's info as what's shown ON the listing itself.
AFAIA relist keeps the ended qty, while sell similar reverts to the original qty - that's about the only difference I've ever seen, apart from a relist showing as such to any watchers.On Relists, yes. On Sell Similar NO. A sell similar is like creating a completely new listing. All numbers are fresh and never used.
On a relisted listing or a renewed listing, the views and sales history follow the listing. Or at least that is how it use to be. I think we need to be refreshed on how it is handled in Ebay currently. It would be good information for all of us to have.
@Anonymous
Hi @mam98031, happy to clarify. Using Sell Similar would create a brand new listing where the seller can input their available quantity. For a relist, the process varies depending on what quantity was available at the time that the listing ended:
- For listings that had a quantity of one or more, the listing will relist with the quantity that was available when the listing ended.
- For listings that had a quantity of 0, relisting the item would reset it to the original quantity.
Of course, a seller is able to edit this as needed
As for views and watchers, these will be retained anytime the item number is retained. If your listing still has the same item number, then it is still benefiting from it's history of engagement (views, watchers, sales history, etc.).
Thank you Trinton. I appreciate the update.
Retaining a listing number happens when a listing is RENEWED, which is not the same as a Relist or Sell Similar.
I think we are just confusing some of Ebay's terminology and that may be on my end and not yours.
I wasn't asking about listings that are Renewed. Sellers have two options when a listing has been ended for whatever reason the listing has ended. We can Relist or we can Sell Similar.
On a Sell Similar I understand that this creates a listing that appears to be a brand new listing to the site.
My question is when we use the RELIST function. When we relist, if there were watchers on the original listing and if the buyer has their site preferences to receive the notice, an email will be sent to them notifying them that the item has been relisted.
With that said, long before you and I met or any of the employees currently monitoring the threads, on a listing that the RELIST function was used, the views and the sales history followed it as well. The buyers nor the sellers could see this information, but the information followed and was used in the search returns.
Ebay does this [or did this] long before the OOS option was available to sellers. It was a way for sellers to keep their search placements on good selling items and not get penalized by having to start a listing all over again.
Now certainly since the start of the OOS feature or before, this could have changed. And since it was never a written rule, I nor others would have known about the changed.
So there are three different ways in which a seller can reup / post a listing. Each should have it's own definition or otherwise they aren't all needed and only add to MY confusion.
Renewals
Relist
Sell Similar
@Anonymous
@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
I've never seen a relist retain the views though.
You wouldn't as I've said. Buyer's nor sellers see it. But to Ebay it is there on a relist. Or it use to be. Still trying to get complete clarity on this.
