Suspicious buyers, high value item. One 100% sure is scammer

[autumn1320107]

Hi huys, 

I have been buying and selling on Ebay with a different acc but since things got too confusing, I made this new account to seperate my buying from selling for easier tracking.  

Now with my new account, I have just got 1 feedback for 1 transaction so far, so I guess to a scammer, my acc appeared to be perfect victim

Today I listed 2  items, $600 and $225

- Higher price item was sold first, to a brand new acc. This person somehow requested my contact info from ebay, then text me asking for my paypal acc so he could send payment. I replied saying just pay it follow ebay policy without giving any info. He marked as paid but of course my paypal clearly has no payment from him. 100% sure he's scammer. 

- later, the other item was also sold to a brand new acc. The thing is, this person did send a payment, which appeared as pendin in my paypal. Her address in Paypal was "confirmed" but as I looked carefully, I saw " the sender of this payment is Non-us Verified. 

My concern is mostly on second case. I had been scammed with the " non us verified" seller before ( ebay covered it thanks god). But now I am the seller, and almost certain that this is also a scam. what would happen if the payment is cleared,  Then I shipped my item and she claimed she does not get it or something like that? What do ebay usualy do in this situation? Anybody had experience with this before? 

Any advice is much appreciated! 

[missjen831]

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@autumn1320107 wrote:
@missjen831 No, paypal still say pending. IF paypal said it's ok to ship, then the payment is completed, I wonder how the scammers were able to cancel the payments then. Unless that Ok to ship information the sellers got were just fake Paypal emails from scammers.

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Thank you! I think the other sellers shipped when in fact PayPal did not say it was ok to do so and then the buyers cancelled the payments! This is a new twist on the fake PayPal email scam. 

[starroute-us]

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@autumn1320107 wrote:
Hourglass on both transactions. Im kinda curious why ebay has to option to print out shipping label for the first transaction even though it's just the buyer marked it as paid.

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Never depend on anything shown in your ebay selling page.

Always log directly into your PP account to verify payments and the correct ship to address.

If not cleared do not ship until the PP transaction details page states ship now or okay to ship.

[z50com]

"Never depend on anything shown in your ebay selling page."

Why not?

[hidy-hoo]

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@z50com wrote:

"Never depend on anything shown in your ebay selling page."

Why not?

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Have you ever heard the phrase....measure twice, cut once?  Same scenario...always double check with PayPal, as they are the entity that controls the money as well as the final and official "OK to ship to this address"!

[starroute-us]

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@z50com wrote:

"Never depend on anything shown in your ebay selling page."

Why not?

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Simply put... PP is your BANK, as far as ebay sales are concerned.

Verify funds and correct ship to address always by logging directly into your PP acct.

Newer sellers are often confused that their ebay selling page is the *last* word, which just isn't so:(

[bigchief2472000]

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@z50com wrote:

"Never depend on anything shown in your ebay selling page."

Why not?

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Because you want to make certain that the payment is complete, not just pending.  Also, if you send to any other address besides the paypal confirmed address, the buyer can easily win an item not received claim through paypal.

It is possible for non US accounts to have confirmed US addresses.  It's usually international buyers that use a third party shipping agent.  They buy things and have them sent to that agent/business/friend and once they accumulate several things, they combine them all into one shipment and then have them shipped internationally.  It's cheaper for them to do that than pay for international shipping on several individual items.