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Silver items - clean or no clean?

For those that sell silver items. Silver or silver plated I have some questions. Speculation also welcome.

 

1. Do you guys find that when you are selling a non scrap item weather sterling or plated, do you find that it sells better, for more, or quicker if its cleaned and polished vs the patina left on it? What is the over under? how much faster, how much more?

 

2. Where do you draw the line between an item that is scrap and an item that is worth selling at an item price? Seller appeal? Hard numbers from the sold section?

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Ok, absolutely that is an opinion that holds merit.
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@jennzet-0 wrote:

My opinion.  Vintage is not supposed to look all shiny and new.

 

That tray has history.  Cleaning gets rid of it.

 

I could understand if your items were badly tarnished and close to the yuck factor.  Your items have just a bit of patina that I feel gives them character and distinguishes them from the Chinese replicas.


I would respectfully have to disagree. For the silverplate trays the OP has, which are vintage but not overly valuable or significantly historical, I always find that shiny sells way better than dull.  OTOH, for valuable antique silver, the decision of whether or not to polish is another story.

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also an opinion that has merit. In the case of both opinion can either of you give some anecdotal numbers, or possibly an over under on polished vs non polished? is this a case where both have always done it that particular way?
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Once cleaned you cannot go back.

 

So if it were mine I would leave it alone and leave it up to the individual buyer to decide.

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@second-chance-sa1es wrote:
also an opinion that has merit. In the case of both opinion can either of you give some anecdotal numbers, or possibly an over under on polished vs non polished? is this a case where both have always done it that particular way?

I've sold sterling pieces on ebay that I've polished, such as sterling silver candy bowls or flatware, and I've sold other pieces in dark original patina/tarnish such as intricate vintage jewelry, which is a pain to polish anyway. In the brick and mortar world, though, I've found that most collectors I've talked to like to purchase their sterling silver pieces in a shiny condition with the exception of certain antique pieces that might be more valuable with original patina.

 

One other thing about removing tarnish. If you don't have any polish around, there are some cheap ways you can do it with typical items you have right in your home. One of the most popular methods of removing tarnish is by using hot water, baking soda, and aluminum foil. If you google "how to remove tarnish from silver with aluminum foil and baking soda," you'll get all kinds of hits on how to do it, as well as youtube videos showing the method. Keep in mind that when it comes to cleaning tarnish, some people prefer this method over polishing and others prefer conventional polishing methods. I've experimented numerous times with the foil/baking soda method. Sometimes most of the tarnish comes off, sometimes it doesn't come off so easily. The videos all make it look easier than it usually is, but it does usually work pretty well.  I wouldn't try it on anything too valuable,  though, until you research it thoroughly, although some people swear by it.

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@jennzet-0 wrote:

Once cleaned you cannot go back.

 

So if it were mine I would leave it alone and leave it up to the individual buyer to decide.


Sure you can.  Keep it in a humid place and it'll get that dark again in about a week or two.

 

The trays are for use.   Patina/tarnish adds no value to them - it only takes away.  They've been polished a good portion of their lives already.  No buyer is going to go through all of that polishing for a middle of the road piece.  Check the Solds on Leonard Silverplate trays - 95% polished.


- Suzanne -
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This is very true. This topic more or less started in coin collecting and there seems to be two solidly different opinions on it. I used to do a lot of metal detecting and this is a real huge hot talking point in that community. How much to clean a coin for display.

dirt clod
unrecognizable metal disc
very dirty coin
coin with patina
clean shiny coin thats lost features due to cleaning and ground erosion

most in the coin detecting realm land somewhere between dirty coin, and coin with patina. its hard to use data to quantify which is going to bring the best returns if valuable.

The same issue is true of those who like to nugget hunt. There comes a point where a gold nugget, because of its size or features becomes more valuable as a nugget than its gold weight.

But that question persists, where one draws that line is very subjective if not in possession of hard numbers, it is however true, once you take the patina off, you cant put it back.
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also an excellent point. the overwhelming majority of the sold are polished.
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@scga912 wrote:

@jennzet-0 wrote:

Once cleaned you cannot go back.

 

So if it were mine I would leave it alone and leave it up to the individual buyer to decide.


Sure you can.  Keep it in a humid place and it'll get that dark again in about a week or two.

 

The trays are for use.   Patina/tarnish adds no value to them - it only takes away.  They've been polished a good portion of their lives already.  No buyer is going to go through all of that polishing for a middle of the road piece.  Check the Solds on Leonard Silverplate trays - 95% polished.


Exactly. We're talking about mediocre pieces that the collectors want shiny so they can use them or show them off to their guests. We're not talking about items such as antique bronzes which should always be left in their original patina and never be polished. 

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I have some pieces which have beautiful patina.  Others just look ugly tarnished.

 

Yes humidity will cause the tarnish to return but it does not consistently come back in the same manner.

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Who eats with tarnished silverware?  Who wears tarnished jewelry?  Go into a museum and look at their silver collection. Tarnished?  No. 

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Here’s Winterthur’s silver polishing program below. 

 

http://www.winterthur.org/pdfs/Silver_Coating.pdf

 

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Did you see the photo of the piece of jewelry posted above.

 

What you call tarnish, I call patina.

 

I have several pieces of Tiffany & Co silver pieces.  They do not plate their silver jewelry.  Mine have developed a natural patina and that is how I wear them.

 

I can understand your point about flatware, though.

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I personally leave the natural patina. I think that leaving it alone is better. I don't want to mess with the item or damage it in any way. Most of my sales on silver, it seems ppl prefer the item the way it is. IF they want to polish it or clean it up they can. I leave it up to the buyer. As far as price goes, it all depends on what the item is, the age, demand, etc.
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@jennzet-0 wrote:

Did you see the photo of the piece of jewelry posted above.

 

What you call tarnish, I call patina.

 

I have several pieces of Tiffany & Co silver pieces.  They do not plate their silver jewelry.  Mine have developed a natural patina and that is how I wear them.

 

I can understand your point about flatware, though.


There’s a difference between tarnish and patina. Most don’t know the difference. 

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