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Shipping without tracking

I was shown how to ship without tracking because the item was so small by eBay customer service and was told I would not be penalized. Ebay directed me to use the drop-down menu in my order dashboard and state it was shipped, which I did. They said by doing that that eBay would trigger a request to the buyer to let them know if the item was received. Even after the buyer stated that they received the item, eBay gave me a defect. This has happened to me twice with no recourse to have the defect reversed.

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You need to check your defects. Ebay does not give defects for no tracking. You must have misunderstood what they said. The also have no way whatsoever to contact a buyer to tell them their item was received.

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How did the buyers 'state' that the delivery was on time? I don't think it can be in a message. I think it has to be through an option in the system. (Not sure, haven't really seen this option).

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@coolections wrote:

 Ebay does not give defects for no tracking.

Ebay does indeed give defects for not providing tracking and not providing tracking for some small $3.99 items that I mail in a regular old #10 envelope is the only reason I do not have TRS status.  It sends me to "above standard" but will  not send me to "below standard".


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Correct for those worrying about TRS status. The OP is not concerned with that that I know of, at least they never mentioned it. I was referring to DEFECTS. As long as you mark the item shipped there is no defect for not providing tracking.

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Specifically, for TRS----"Tracking uploaded within your stated handling time, and carrier validation for 95% of transactions to US buyers." But as others have said-no defects given for no tracking.

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   There are NO defects for not using tracking. It can keep you out of TRS, but it will not, by itself, drop you down further than Above Average.

   A lot of sellers, myself included, use a #10 envelope with a stamp or two, or a larger flexible envelope to send out items that are small, thin and flexible to qualify for the much lower non-tracked USPS rates. Examples of this are small items such as collector stamps, needlecraft patterns, non-advertising pamphlets, and other thin & flexible items that fit within the USPS parameters.

   If you're actually receiving a defect, it isn't because of not using tracking... UNLESS you are not marking the item as shipped in your Seller Hub Orders tab.

Cheers, Duffy

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Hi, 1st time, I did receive a defect downgrade from 100% to 97% for not having tracking, even though I marked it shipped in my order tab and the buyer gave me a very positive feedback. This time did this only 1 day after I shipped item & I shipped it within 1 day of the order. After eBay told me I could send it without tracking, that they would request the buyer let eBay know when they receive it, so I wouldn't get a defect. Couldn't mail it on Monday, President's Day, so I mailed it Tuesday at the Post office.

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Dropping from 100% to 97%  is not exactly a "Defect"     It's a score keeping system to be used

to keep you qualified for TRS status if that matters to you.

 

I ship stamps all the time with a forever stamp and #10 white envelope.   Not a day 

goes by that I don't send out at least one cheap order in that manner.

 

I keep my TRS status by not letting that % drop below 95%

 

Lose TRS if you drop below 95% a penatly,   But I wouldn't call it a defect.    

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I've never heard in 23 years selling on ebay without using tracking,   Of ebay contacting 

a buyer or asking the buyer to contact ebay for delivery updates.

 

Simply have never heard of such a thing.

 

Your CRS rep was either wrong or you heard them wrong.  

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That's what I thought, so I called again last Monday & they verified I could send without tracking. Even though, why do they give you a defect when the buyer gives a great feedback after receiving the item? Why can't you send something without tracking, when it weighs less than an ounce. 59 cent stamp as opposed to $4.35 for tracking?

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@dirk12955 wrote:

I've never heard in 23 years selling on ebay without using tracking,   Of ebay contacting 

a buyer or asking the buyer to contact ebay for delivery updates.

 

Simply have never heard of such a thing.

 

Your CRS rep was either wrong or you heard them wrong.  


It's done all the time (ship without tracking) and does not 'affect' a seller as long as they mark the item 'shipped'. Although they cannot obtain Top Rated Status- which means they can't get the 10% off fees (if TRS Plus) and cannot deduct the 'up to 50% on returns (if they offer returns). 

 

It is usually done by sellers selling small dollar items that can fit in a .60c stamped envelope. 

 

A real 'affect' is in your pocket. No 'extra' costs (you cannot become 'below standard' which has a 6% additional FVF). 

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Here is the definition of ebay's "defect" and tracking is not listed. You are confusing performance evaluation with defects. 

A defect is a part of a transaction that eBay considers to have created a bad shopping experience for buyers.  A transaction can get a defect in two ways.

  1. When a seller cancels a transaction for out of stock

  2. If a seller is unable to resolve a problem through the Resolution Center and eBay steps in, and the seller is found responsible

A seller’s transaction defect rate is the percentage of their total transactions that had either defect. Note that these defects often measure how satisfied your buyers were with a transaction. We don’t count more than one defect per transaction.

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Just this week I received an order from a seller who did not upload the tracking. When I went to leave feedback there was a question there asking me if I had received my item on time. I checked "yes".

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Thank you for responding. That is what eBay said was supposed to happen, but they did not even give the item time to get to the buyer. I mailed it Tuesday afternoon & I received a defect for not received by Thursday morning!

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