02-05-2022 01:35 PM
I sell a lot of small items, under $20. If possible I use Ebay Standard envelopes for some seller protection, in other cases I use other shipping providers that offer IMB tracking, and in some cases items are sent with stamps. Most items, even without tracking, are delivered and customers are happy. Sometimes things are delayed, but most of the time when someone says they didn't receive an item it was either overlooked or they're simply going by the Ebay status that doesn't show "delivered".
In any case, if a buyer wants to ask about delivery status Ebay forces them to open a formal "not received" request. In the email sellers receive it says "If the buyer’s request is not resolved by [DATE], they can ask us to step in and make a decision."
Problem is, this is a lie. Even if the buyer DOESN'T ask Ebay to step in, Ebay will automatically escalate this request into a dispute if you don't have tracking for the item. Even if the customers says they found it, or it was delivered, or if they say they'll wait for it. If they don't close the request it is atomically escalated and refunded. This happens if you enter a valid USPS tracking # that is still in transit, or an Ebay standard envelope tracking #, or no tracking at all.
Sellers are sent an email when the case is escalated stating:
"Case # xxxx: Buyer contacted Customer Service"
and
"The buyer has asked eBay Customer Service to review this case and make a final decision."
This is also not true, the customer DID NOT do this in most cases. It was automatic. Unless the buyer formally closes the request Ebay will automatically do so. Contrary to what they're stating.
You would think someone would actually review the dispute then, and see that the buyer maybe confirmed delivery, or wants to wait a few days, but no.
In my opinion this borders on fraud, or misleading business practices, and a the very least is misrepresenting buyers and stealing from sellers. Ebay needs to change the wording in the request & disputes, or stop auto-escalating these requests.
If ebay is going to automatically create disputes, why not say that and spell it out in the request emails & other policies instead of being sneaky about it and making it seem like the buyer chose to create the dispute?
Luckily I've been able to successfully appeal most of disputes like this, but it usually requires calling Ebay and wasting a lot of time on something that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
02-05-2022 02:13 PM - edited 02-05-2022 02:13 PM
Thanks for the heads up. All of a sudden I feel grateful that I always ship using Tracking. Life's too short...
02-05-2022 02:32 PM
The lack of tracking has been an issue since eBay came out with it. There have been several postings on this forum regarding that shortcoming, along with a few others. Personally I never ship anything without tracking even though the cost is higher at least I have some semblance of protection in the event of an INR.
02-05-2022 02:35 PM
I think that change was announced in the 2020 spring or fall update but it should just be for items without tracking or without an acceptance scan. I'm fairly sure that if the item is in transit the case will only be escalated if the buyer asks ebay to step in.
But I don't recall seeing that information since the update. It may be somewhere in the help pages but ebay should mention in the dispute that they may step in after so many days in that type of situation. And when they do step in on their own, the message says that the buyer asked them to do so...that's frustrating for both the buyer and seller.
I'm not positive but if the item does get a delivery scan within the next 30(?) days, you may be able to appeal the defect and get a courtesy refund.
I had an inr opened a while ago and although there was tracking, it wasn't being updated in ebay. The package arrived the day after the case was opened but tracking still didn't update. eBay decided to step in and refunded the buyer. I did send a message to cs on FB and did get my money back and the defect removed but I shouldn't have had to do that. There is no way they should be stepping in when the buyer is able to do that on their own.
02-05-2022 02:43 PM
I've confirmed with several customers that state they did not escalate the requests to a dispute. If you don't have a valid delivery scan Ebay will automatically escalate if the buyer doesn't specifically close the request.
It's not a tracking issue per-se, it's the wording of the emails & policy pages where ebay is stating that the buyer is doing this. No where does it say ebay will automatically open a dispute, but they definitely are.
11-27-2024 05:44 AM
Another cost cutting measure that we pay for as sellers in the form of actual helpful customer service. I'm going to call in today and ask to speak to a supervisor so i can lodge a formal complaint.
I just had ebay cancel an item that the customer still wanted becuase the post office failed to scan the item when i dropped it off! Since it doesnt show movement theu assume it was never dropped off. This is ridiculous!
Dear ebay, if you can't provide actual customer service for your website then people are going to stop using it.
11-27-2024 08:15 AM
Well, ALWAYS ship with tracking! It's for YOUR protection. Don't offer "free shipping", either.
11-27-2024 08:20 AM
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