08-23-2023
05:58 AM
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08-23-2023
07:31 AM
by
kh-vince
Seller has had another Acct Inflating her auctions for at least 2 weeks now. The other acct, K***K has bid on every auction she has posted. If said auction doesn't exceed the highest bid K***K has placed then a 24 hour auction for the same Item is Posted. K***K has Won over 60 of her auctions, How is this happening
08-23-2023 06:32 AM
Shills don’t try to win bidding. They increase the price of the item but never try to win. So it’s not a shill.
The bidder you are seeing probably just loves what that seller is selling and bids on those items a lot, nothing wrong with repeat business.
08-23-2023 07:29 AM
Yea Right - Knowing that the product (Pokemon Card Packs) has a rare chance of pulling a high end card from packs. Been in this bussiness of Trading Cards to long not to see a Cheat
08-23-2023 07:33 AM
You are not allowed to name and shame in these forums. And you have no actual proof, only speculation.
08-23-2023 07:35 AM
Thanks for letting us know.
08-23-2023 07:36 AM
You are correct. There are at least 2 shills, one with 64 feedbacks and the other with 1 feedback.
It's definitely shilling though you're correct that shills don't try to win. But in many cases, it backfires and SCOs are sent or items are relisted.
08-23-2023 07:42 AM
If you suspect shill bidding you should report it to eBay even though they have checks in place to catch shill bidders it does not catch all of them. I believe shill bidding is also illegal in certain situations.
08-23-2023 07:50 AM
How is this happening
Quite simply, it is happening because K***K is going to the auction listings and placing bids. I know this sounds like a smarty pants answer, but you asked.
eBay allegedly has software in place to detect shill bidding, but I doubt it is a real-time system. It probably only runs periodically and I suspect it would have a threshold of bids, a threshold percentage of bids with the same seller, and would also count non-payment cases in those auctions.
08-23-2023 02:44 PM
@luckythewinner wrote:
would also count non-payment cases in those auctions.
My guess would be that in cases of "oops" shilling in which the shill wins, the seller would be canceling at buyer's request rather than letting the cases cancel for non-payment.
08-23-2023 03:47 PM
Not all shills avoid winning.
If the seller doesn't want to sell below a certain price, then using a shill to "win" the auction is a great strategy.
The seller just cancels the "shill"s bid for a bogus reason, then either sends a second chance offer, or relists the item.
Dishonest sellers have been doing this for at least 15-20 years, because that's how long I have noticed it happening on eBay.