07-19-2021 10:19 AM
07-19-2021 10:21 AM
Thanks for sharing..
07-19-2021 10:24 AM
I agree...NOW it't time to go after the other 1,000,000 or so other scammers on eBay...😎
07-19-2021 10:29 AM
@kus1617 wrote:I agree...NOW it't time to go after the other 1,000,000 or so other scammers on eBay...😎
No kidding!! Like yesterday would be nice...
07-19-2021 10:30 AM
Thanks for posting. One thing I happened to notice was the perpetrators operated for over three years before finally being shutdown and caught. I realize it takes time to build a solid case and catch the crooks but how many complaints do you suppose eBay got from the buyers during those three years and did nothing?
NOWHERE in the praise by the Acting U.S. Attorney Patel do you see ANY mention of eBay. He recognized the assistance of United States Secret Service in Toledo, Ohio and Miami, Florida; the FBI’s Baltimore field office; United States Postal Inspection Service in Detroit; New York State Police; the Canton, Ohio, Butler Village, Ohio, Mayfield Heights, Ohio, Bloomfield Township, Michigan, Marlboro Township, New Jersey and Janesville, Wisconsin police departments; and the Walworth County, Wisconsin and Clarke County, Alabama sheriff’s offices.
07-19-2021 10:39 AM
Well, that's a seller scam.....but it seems buyer scams are going to go on and on without any punishments.
07-19-2021 10:40 AM
...Kinda makes one think...maybe complicity involved?...are they ACTIVELY WATCHING???...they should actively start looking at some of the anonymous auctions that are so prominent here...JMHO!!!😁
07-19-2021 10:42 AM
But it is so.... 10.6 millions so.....
Columbus man who led online car sales scam sentenced to more than 14 years in prison
Scam defrauded more than 850 victims nationwide out of at least $10.6 million
COLUMBUS, Ohio – The leader of an online car sales scam that cheated hundreds of victims around the country out of more than $10.6 million total was sentenced in federal court today to 170 months in prison.
Terry J. Boutwell, 38, of Columbus, and others, pretended to part of an eBay program in order steal money through fake car sales.
Boutwell pleaded guilty in July 2019 to conspiring to commit money laundering. As part of his sentencing, he is ordered to pay $10,639,225.91 in restitution.
Court documents outline that Boutwell and others operated the scheme from 2015 until October 2018. He and the other co-conspirators were part of a network that attracted online customers through fraudulent postings for vehicle sales.
Defendants communicated with victims through email and phone, posing as employees of eBay, and used third parties to open bank accounts in the names of shell corporations that appeared to be affiliated with eBay. They instructed victims to wire funds to various third-party bank accounts they set up. They claimed to be affiliated with eBay’s Buyer Protection Program, when in fact, no such relationship existed.
Accounts in Boutwell’s control received more than $10.6 million from more than 850 victims around the country.
“Boutwell and his co-conspirators may have been dedicated to carrying out this sophisticated scheme, but our law enforcement partners on all levels throughout the country were just as dedicated to getting justice for the hundreds of victims who lost hard-earned money to this criminal conspiracy,” said Acting U.S. Attorney Vipal J. Patel. “Now, through restitution, we hope to get that money back to them. In the meantime, Boutwell will be serving a lengthy stay in federal prison.”
“This case serves as an unfortunate reminder that scammers will find new and sinister ways to relieve you of your hard-earned dollars,” Patel added. “Any attempt to communicate or make payment outside of an online merchant’s existing system should be met with extreme skepticism and caution.”
Two co-conspirators have also been sentenced in this case. Tiffany A. Strobl, 41, of Columbus, was sentenced to five months in prison and ordered to pay more than $2 million in restitution. Shalitha R. Schexnayder, 41, of Miami, Florida, was sentenced to six months of home confinement as part of five years of federal probation.
Vipal J. Patel, Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio; and Bryant Jackson, Special Agent in Charge, Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Criminal Investigation, announced the sentence imposed by U.S. District Court Judge Edmund A Sargus, Jr. Assistant United States Attorney Noah Litton is representing the United States in this case.
Acting U.S. Attorney Patel recognized the assistance of United States Secret Service in Toledo, Ohio and Miami, Florida; the FBI’s Baltimore field office; United States Postal Inspection Service in Detroit; New York State Police; the Canton, Ohio, Butler Village, Ohio, Mayfield Heights, Ohio, Bloomfield Township, Michigan, Marlboro Township, New Jersey and Janesville, Wisconsin police departments; and the Walworth County, Wisconsin and Clarke County, Alabama sheriff’s offices.
07-19-2021 10:43 AM
@dbfolks166mt wrote:Thanks for posting. One thing I happened to notice was the perpetrators operated for over three years before finally being shutdown and caught. I realize it takes time to build a solid case and catch the crooks but how many complaints do you suppose eBay got from the buyers during those three years and did nothing?
NOWHERE in the praise by the Acting U.S. Attorney Patel do you see ANY mention of eBay. He recognized the assistance of United States Secret Service in Toledo, Ohio and Miami, Florida; the FBI’s Baltimore field office; United States Postal Inspection Service in Detroit; New York State Police; the Canton, Ohio, Butler Village, Ohio, Mayfield Heights, Ohio, Bloomfield Township, Michigan, Marlboro Township, New Jersey and Janesville, Wisconsin police departments; and the Walworth County, Wisconsin and Clarke County, Alabama sheriff’s offices.
HOORAY FOR YOU FOR REMARKING ON THIS! I AGREE 100%!
Just Posted a Story about a scammer on another thread that falls right in line with what you are saying - Goes Like This:
@skeletonstore wrote:Ohhh....Still though quite a heist...and now she risks being banned on ebay if she goes to the well too often.
ME in Reply: Sorry, I DO NOT believe anything about this statement in the least - I was the victim of a scammer over a year ago by a Littlest Pet Shop Buyer on a $189 Lot - Made every false statement in the book - I got back about 80% of them, of course all the most valuable were gone(I did get my money back after much work including filing criminal reports and hounding ebay) - I started emailing sellers he/she had received feedback from and found that almost every one of them had a similar experience - thinking I was doing something to help clean up the site, I inquired with them to file reports and most said they already had or that they would -
Guess what?????? - OVER A YEAR LATER that Person is still buying and also selling their ill-gotten items on the same account - They have TONS of "False Positive" feedback using the words "Scammer", "Thief", "Steer Clear of", "False Reports", etc, etc... Nope - I dont believe anything about that statement...not on any level...
07-19-2021 10:48 AM
Wonder if it was one of those operations that claims that "it's covered by the eBay buyer protection" gift card payment scammer deals where there is actually no eBay involvement.
07-19-2021 10:48 AM - edited 07-19-2021 10:49 AM
From the article...
They claimed to be affiliated with eBay’s Buyer Protection Program, when in fact, no such relationship existed.”
It's not clear whether the listings were ever on ebay and if not, ebay wouldn't be involved in the investigation. It sounds like it could be one of the schemes that we often get asked about when the vehicle is listed on Auto Trader etc and the seller tells the buyer that they will go through the ebay Protection Plan etc etc....
In that situation ebay's name is involved but they are never involved in any way with the buyer or seller.
07-19-2021 10:52 AM - edited 07-19-2021 10:56 AM
None of the scams had anything to do with ebay. This was the car scam where they put ads on FB and Craigslist then dupe the buyer into believing the deal is somehow associated with Ebay to provide a false sense of security. They claim it will be covered by a made up ebay car buyer protection program that does not exist.
07-19-2021 10:52 AM
Guess what?????? - OVER A YEAR LATER that Person is still buying and also selling their ill-gotten items on the same account - They have TONS of "False Positive" feedback using the words "Scammer", "Thief", "Steer Clear of", "False Reports", etc, etc... Nope - I dont believe anything about that statement...not on any level...
...And You're surprised by this...Why???... the $'s and Cents are the eBay bottom line...
07-19-2021 10:54 AM
@dbfolks166mt wrote:Thanks for posting. One thing I happened to notice was the perpetrators operated for over three years before finally being shutdown and caught. I realize it takes time to build a solid case and catch the crooks but how many complaints do you suppose eBay got from the buyers during those three years and did nothing?
NOWHERE in the praise by the Acting U.S. Attorney Patel do you see ANY mention of eBay. He recognized the assistance of United States Secret Service in Toledo, Ohio and Miami, Florida; the FBI’s Baltimore field office; United States Postal Inspection Service in Detroit; New York State Police; the Canton, Ohio, Butler Village, Ohio, Mayfield Heights, Ohio, Bloomfield Township, Michigan, Marlboro Township, New Jersey and Janesville, Wisconsin police departments; and the Walworth County, Wisconsin and Clarke County, Alabama sheriff’s offices.
WHOA - According to the article it appears that the scammers were not operating on the ebay site? And therefore could fly under the radar regarding recognition of the problem when it came to ebay - To a degree, it looks like ebay was scammed too - It appears the scammers just told people they worked for or were affiliated with ebay - so on this one ebay gets a pass...
07-19-2021 10:58 AM