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Returns have become epidemic- is this Ebays Plan?

Had only gotten a handful of returns in 17 years, but have been averaging 3 a week since Ebay's new return policy.

Buyer reasons are generally, "just didn't like it", but file as SNAD!

And now Ebay is simply authorizing the return immediately.

 

Not one return has been an actual SNAD.

 

The only defence is to raise prices?

 

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Returns have become epidemic- is this Ebays Plan?

This has been happening to me too.  Buyers are claiming the "Item doesn't Work" even on a book so that I have to pay return shipping.  This great Ebay policy is screwing sellers as always!

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@colonelmarlowe wrote: 

The only defence is to raise prices?

 


No , EBay advises you to lower your prices to make sales.

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@colonelmarlowe wrote:

Had only gotten a handful of returns in 17 years, but have been averaging 3 a week since Ebay's new return policy.

Buyer reasons are generally, "just didn't like it", but file as SNAD!

And now Ebay is simply authorizing the return immediately.

 

Not one return has been an actual SNAD.

 

The only defence is to raise prices?

 


Yup. And SNAD can not be fought, eBay CSR's are not able to change the case even when the customer admits it's not accurate.

 

And of course, next month you will be paying additional fees for high SNAD rates.

 

Our old eBay account manager called us last week. He was not even aware that you could not fight false SNAD claims!

 

For any system that is going to penalize for SNAD, it is an absolute requirement that you must be able to fight those claims, or else the system is rigged to be unfair, and allows corporate sabotage.

 

What happens when a business has 10 employees all order an item from the same seller, and choose SNAD at the same time? 

Instantly removing the competition from the picture...

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@ed8108 wrote:

@colonelmarlowe wrote: 

The only defence is to raise prices?

 


No , EBay advises you to lower your prices to make sales.


That's the problem. 

 

The money has to come from somewhere. If you are taking out money for returns, that comes from margin. If you can not lower the margin, the money is then going to come out of the buyers pocket instead.

 

Can you think of any way the algoirthm can calculate this?

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Its almost has to raise prices  Best regards

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Returns have become epidemic- is this Ebays Plan?

I haven't had any returns (they're rare) but I have had THREE returns as in RTS for wrong/insufficient address in the last month and they used to be once in a blue moon as well.

I have to wonder what's going on.
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@myjunqueyourtreasure wrote:
I haven't had any returns (they're rare) but I have had THREE returns as in RTS for wrong/insufficient address in the last month and they used to be once in a blue moon as well.

I have to wonder what's going on.

People are just realizing the policies are changing.

 

EBay used to be the market with the cheapest prices. But with the new policies causing sellers to have to spend money elsewhere, (free shipping, sponsor fees, upcoming FVF increase) that advantage is being lost.

 

The shipping is usually slower on eBay, prices are basically the same now. 

 

So now, what reason do buyers have to go on eBay ahead of other markets...? Probably the biggest advantage as a buyer at this moment is the complete lack of responsibility buyers have. 

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Ebay is pandering to buyers.

Because Ebay execs and policy makers have no experience in retailing or mail order they are taken in by all the horror stories buyers tell about sellers.

Then in their misguided belief that having sellers bend over to buyers, will keep buyers on the site.

 

So long as Ebay gets its' fees, it doesn't care what happens to sellers.

 

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they are going to raise fvf's if you have to many returns, so yes, thats ebay's plan

 

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eBay's plan seems to be to emulate Amazon.  Amazon sold at a loss for two decades so that they could accumulate the huge market share they have today.  That may be their plan, are you saying you aren't willing to play along?  I'm not surprised. 

The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.
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I haven't seen an increase in returns and even adopted the free returns for some of my items. It's optional - not a requirement to offer free returns. Are you selling women's clothing - because many have talked about increased returns that sell in that category - that's why I'm getting out of that category.

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I've been selling on eBay since 1999 and have never seen the need to offer returns. The main reason is the unproductive nature of the return with the added labor and shipping cost. Why not offer a very accurate description with good photos so the buyer knows what he's getting in the first place? A customer returning an item in person at a Walmart is different than the waste of resources used to handle returns via a paid shipper. This is the business model eBay now wants for ALL sellers and I'm not on board with that. If I were selling light-weight junky trinkets in mass quanity with a low shipping cost then I would offer free shipping and returns. Why not? The average customer who buys cheap low-end junky trinkets will probably get their jollies by the price alone and throw it in their junk box after using it for awhile. eBay used to be a viable online marketplace for vintage items and decorative/fine art but I see it evolving into a marketplace for inferior new junk. If you're a seller offering new stuff for which the others have the same merchandise I've got news for you. Darwinism...the survival of the fittest. You could be a "jobber" dropshipping new imported junk but someone else will eventually come along and challenge your profit margin...if you even know what a profit margin is. I see some stuff sold for under $1 with free shipping and I'm wondering how that profit margin works. IMO, the same sellers peddling the same stuff will eventually eat themselves up and a few sharks will survive. I'm still trying to figure out why eBay still keeps around the oldtimers like myself with free listings! 🙂        

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There are times when a posting ID is useful, and times when it is not.

We can't see your listings, so we can't determine where the problem is.

A sudden rise in the number of returns may be caused by the new emphasis on the Money Back Guarantee*, but we long time sellers (my oldest ID dates to 1998) sometimes keep on doing what we have always been doing, and then are surprised when it no longer works.

 

  • Have you looked at your lisitings on a mobile phone? Over half of all online shopping is done on mobiles these days, and eBay truncates the information immediately available to those shoppers.
  • Are your ToS friendly or do you have No Returns enabled? In my opinion, that is telling the buyer that you will only refund if forced, which means a Not As Described dispute.
  • Do you have long involved ToS and short Descriptions? Are you using Item Specifics?
  • Are you using all the pictures you have available?  I don't, but most of my items are books and sewing patterns. Not much to photograph.  But my SF collector boxes could use more photos if they were available.

With today's buyer, it's immediate gratification. Unfortunately, that often means buying first and thinking later.

 

The only real protection we Sellers have is charging more to cover losses in shipping costs. It gets called Cookie Jar Insurance-- tossing a few pennies, or dimes, or even a buck, into a virtual Cookie Jar from every sale, and using those virtual pennies to cover the to and fro costs from unhappy buyers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Although if you actually think about the policy, it hasn't changed. Seller can still insist on returns before refunds and buyers always could call a remorse return a NAD.  Was there ever a button that said "this is a remorse return"?

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I don't get a whole lot of returns. This year, only one so far. Buyer wanted to return a comic book because the mail carrier bent the package that caused damage to the comic book.

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