11-30-2024 04:13 AM
I have noticed a huge push for "promoted listings".
My sales are about 1/2 what they were last year, and I have a lot more inventory this year.
I used to sell about 1,200 items a year, but I do not buy much on eBay.
I do use the eBay search engine to compare prices before listing.
I now get shown 1,000's of unrelated items when I search.
Right now I am selling parts from a Honda CR-V, last month I was selling parts from an Acura RSX.
When I try and search for the CR-V parts, I am getting shown parts for the Acura.
Searching "completed listings" is way worse.
Is this what you get when paying for promoted listings? eBay charging you to show your item to 1,000's of buyers who are not looking for your item, and have no intention of buying it.
Are my items even appearing in buyers searches? Or are they so buried in the list of unrelated items that buyers never even scroll down thru the sea of listings?
I have dropped my prices to well below other sellers, but still nothing.
Are buyers no longer shown the least expensive of the items they are searching for?
eBay has become a huge disappointment. I should have never trusted this site for making a living.
eBay should just admit they are raising their fees, and make it the same for all sellers.
A search for completed listings on "65 chevrolet truck bumper"
Yields these results: 1,000's of completely unrelated items. You have to scroll down thru the first 100 or so before you find even one related item.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=65+chevrolet+truck+bumper&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Complete=...
11-30-2024 04:26 AM
There's no way promoted listings can exist without an interruption of search and normal buying habits. Hopefully eBay has a team of wizards working to deal with the issue. Buyers aren't stupid. They will be frustrated and go elsewhere if they're searching for size XL red pajamas but other colors, sizes or even products are presented. I sometimes use google search but it's fraught with a similar issue.
11-30-2024 05:11 AM - edited 11-30-2024 07:34 AM
"Promoted listings" are a software package sold by eBay. If you don't know how to use the software, you are out of luck. (I sure as hell don't know how to use it -- nor am I even convinced that it works to heighten listing visibility, never mind increase the odds of actual sales.)
Meantime I'd experiment with different phrases and word combinations in my titles.
I did a search on "Honda CR-V bolt" and your listing came up about 25 or so from the top (it was about 12 from the top if I selected "North America" as seller location):
Regarding the "65 chevrolet truck bumper"... I think that different buyers will get different results -- all based on our unique particulars (location, buying history, etc.)
For example, here's a link to my eBay search on the same phrase:
For reference, here are the first three listings:
11-30-2024 06:52 AM
A search for completed listings on "65 chevrolet truck bumper"
Yields these results: 1,000's of completely unrelated items.
You can get much better results by simply searching the Bumper category rather than "All categories". Better still if you specify front or rear bumper using filter options available in that category.
To filter out the nuts and bolts, adding a lower bound price range can improve that search even further.
11-30-2024 07:24 AM
There are two pieces to any search engine the software side the the searchers side. The eBay search engine has always been problematic and the attempt to integrate the promoted listing aspect into it has made it that much worse. It's common on other sites as well but I have found the quality of the results to be much better on other venues.
The other piece is the searchers side. The results of a search are often dependent on what parameters the searcher puts into the search. I don't buy much on eBay these days simply because I cannot find it, I don't want to sort through the 100's or 1,000's of results I get back from a search that have nothing to do with what I am looking for, and I can generally find it easier and cheaper on other sites.
Promoted listings has always been a race to the bottom for sellers and despite early warnings a lot of sellers are only now beginning to realize that as the PL %'s sellers are using continue to increase in the belief that they are gaining some advantage over other sellers by doing so.
I began to diversity across multiple platforms and venues long ago. Some of this was forced by eBay and their ever expanding list of restricted and prohibited items and the VERO program. At one point eBay accounted for about 90% of my sales by volume. That is now down to about 20%.
Depending on eBay for a living is a VERY risky proposition given you could be restricted from using the site at about anytime and without any prior notification. About the best advice I can offer you is to diversity and have alternative strategies in place should something take place. EBay no longer has the quasi monopoly they once had and sellers are diversifying across multiple sites and buyers are certainly doing so.
11-30-2024 07:45 AM
Your vague search words "65 chevrolet truck bumper" are a problem. I repeated the search with "1965 Chevrolet C-10 Pickup Truck Front Bumper" and got 10 bumpers nearer to the top and 89 irrelevent results.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=1965+Chevrolet+C-10+Pickup+Truck+Front+Bumper&_sacat=6000
Rather than diagnosing your slower sales as being the result of the search engine deficiencies, which we can't change, look at the demand side.
Buyers will cherry pick more desirable items and sellers are stuck with less desirable listings as time elapses. That's true for all sellers and categories.
The most abundant cars on a salvage yard lot are 14 and 15 years old.
It is rare to see cars older than 22 years on a lot.
Few parts sell on eBay for cars older than 22 years.
Freshen up your store with parts between 10 and 22 years old. You can't make a living selling 18 to 36 year old parts unless you have a million of them.
11-30-2024 08:10 AM
I agree. I think if there was an option to exclude promoted listings it would be very
popular. Now I find checking the search option to include description helps the most.
11-30-2024 09:18 AM
Some of these promoted listings are promoted very high, over priced items for sale and the items are not even worth being sold to someone.
eBay loses because they promote (not everything) but some poor quality items while good items similar are out there not promoted as high or priced so high...thus no eBay fees from these sellers and eBay loses money.
The promoted process can sometimes back fire creating less profit for eBay.
Buyers don't get the exposure of lower price items and good quality items.
I think if there was not this promoted thing...eBay would probably make more in profits due to lower price and good quality items sold.
11-30-2024 10:35 AM
It's like going to a grocery store where every isle you turn down is another end cap of what the store wants you to buy not what you're shopping for. What's on your list is well hidden and you have to hunt for it.
11-30-2024 10:38 AM
Searching for 'vehicle parts' works best when a buyer inputs their year/make/model of vehicle first, then searches.
Item Specifics allows sellers to input all types of 'keywords' or vehicles, so even then, you will find Fuzzy Dice, Dancing Bobblehead Hulu Girls etc. in just about ALL vehicle searches, since those things can fit any vehicle.
11-30-2024 10:41 AM
I have noticed way more things unrelated to what I am searching for, appaering in the currently for sale, and the sold, results. It is frustrating. It's also the way ebay makes a sellers promoted listings percentage fulfilled. The bad thing about this is they are showing these promoted listings where they really don't belong, and often they hinder the search results effectiveness.
11-30-2024 10:50 AM
I think if there was an option to exclude promoted listings it would be very
popular.
Since those of us who use PL are paying for extra exposure, such an option would kill any interest from sellers who pay to use it.
11-30-2024 11:10 AM
There has been issues with the search engine for quite some time, PL's have just added to an existing problem.
12-01-2024 04:33 AM
Thank you for the response. Good information for sure.
The tips on searching will help. I still have issues finding "sold" items to compare. When I search "completed listings" for previously sold items, I am trying to figure out where to price mine. This is where I really see 1,000s of the irrelevant listings.
My focus is trying to find parts to sell that are NOT made "new" by Far-East manufactures.
Any 2014 model of any car, 80% of the parts were made in the far-east to begin with. So they are just making a cheaper and cheaper knockoffs of the factories down the block.
Impossible to compete with these sellers, Almost every "new" part is $17 with free shipping.
They can make, sell and ship a "new" '84 4runner front fender from Asia for $179 w free shipping. Costs me $160 just to ship a used OEM Fender.
A 1988 Honda, 95% of the parts were made in Japan, with precision made Japanese parts. New Hondas are made in the USA with Chinese-made parts. But my part is old & dirty and the knockoff is shiny & new.
Trick is finding rare enough models with still enough folks driving/restoring them, but not too common or it becomes profitable for the far-east sellers to make them "new".
There are 5,000 people in the USA driving 1988-91 Civic Wagons. Far-East makes replacement parts for the same-era hatchbacks, but not for the wagons. I have the worlds-largest stock of parts for the 88-91 civic wagons.
1984-89 4runners. Far-East makes parts for the Pickups, but not many for the 4runners.
It seems like the far-east sellers are taking full advantage of the "promoted listings".
But, they can't put "Used OEM" in the titles, so small sellers like me still have some hope to compete.
Every used OEM part sold, is one less the far east has to make. I don't think they like that.