03-20-2023 10:47 PM
Hi! I'm fairly new to ebay but I've been reselling for a couple of years elsewhere. I just sold a top dollar dress to a buyer that I'm having strong feelings that the buyer is going to scam me. I think this because the last name is spelled "PRQKYG" . He/she has been a member since 2021 but only has one purchase on their history with no feedback. I'm very aware of the scammers on these platforms so how do I ensure that I do not get scammed or what does ebay have as far as protection for sellers? Thank you for your opinions. @everyone
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03-20-2023 11:50 PM
If it's the Jessica McClintock I wouldn't worry. I sell those on a regular basis and they go to people who really want them - they've never seemed to me to be a high-scam item.
03-20-2023 10:55 PM
I think this because the last name is spelled "PRQKYG"
What is it about the last name that makes you think you might get scammed? I'm not having any luck discovering the hidden meaning.
03-20-2023 11:07 PM - edited 03-20-2023 11:08 PM
No one can ensure they don’t get scammed on eBay. There are things that you can do to reduce risk. Honestly I don’t find any reason yet for you to have much concern.
03-20-2023 11:12 PM
that looks like a code for a re shipper. lots of buyers have a series of letters and numbers in the address that is used by the forwarder
03-20-2023 11:16 PM
Generally if they pay, you should ship. Having few purchases doesn't make a buyer a scammer. Pack well and use tracking. Congrats on your sales!
03-20-2023 11:22 PM
@slippinjimmy wrote:I think this because the last name is spelled "PRQKYG"
What is it about the last name that makes you think you might get scammed? I'm not having any luck discovering the hidden meaning.
@slippinjimmy: what language would that be and how would you pronounce it. I'm curious.
@lavintagestreetxoxo: Protections vary based on how the customer approaches an issue. If they communicate and work with you, resolutions can generally be pretty easy. If they are "entitled" and expect you to bear all the costs of their window-shopping/mistaken purchase/under-estimating their hips... things could get uncomfortable.
My general rules (because there will always be exceptions):
- No Partial Refunds. If the buyer is asking for a partial refund because "I think I can fix it", "I can make do", or "I'm sure you just missed it" -- they are likely just looking to get money back for a product that is perfectly fine. No partial refunds will send most of those folks moving along to the next victi...er....seller.
- All communication thru eBay. Don't acknowledge or respond to any direct email. eBay has made this easier to enforce by not sharing email addresses on transactions and by scanning for contact data in Messages. Keep the conversation on eBay -- anything off-site will not be taken into consideration if there is a problem with the buyer. Anything on-site can be easily viewed by Customer Service.
- Require returns to go thru the Return Request system. This system documents the interaction and has various time requirements for both buyer and seller. You have a deadline to begin interaction and/or to resolve. The buyer has a deadline to ship the product back to you. A scammer isn't going to want to go thru the Returns system ... it creates a record on their account that eBay can more easily see (50 purchases, 30 Return Request is not a good ratio).
- In the case where the profit margin of the sale will not actually cover paying for a return shipment, I still ask them to open a Return Request. Yes, I'm going to simply refund with no return postage paid by me, but the act of asking them to open the Request will separate the 'script kiddies' (folks who found a video on YouTube showing them how to scam eBay/online sellers) and the serious, professional scammer. It's like locking your car doors whenever/wherever you park -- the kids walking by tugging on door handles will simply keep going and your car is safe. The serious car thief isn't going to be stopped by anything short of a serious kill switch, blaring alarm, and massive steering wheel lock. The serious thief is going to cost you time and money one way or another, but that door handle tugger will just move on and that's a good thing.
If the buyer opens a 'changed mind' Return, you can deny the return if the buyer isn't willing to be reasonable (say, pay their own return shipping and allow you to deduct the cost of the original shipping). They won't be able to open another Return, but they are still able to file a chargeback with their financial institution (bank or CC provider).
If the buyer opens a SNAD (Substantially Not As Described) Return, your options are much more restricted. You'll have 3-4 days to converse and see if the buyer will be reasonable, but at the end of that time (eBay will tell you the date), if you haven't reach an agreement, the customer -may- forward the issue to eBay Customer Service who will nearly always side with the customer (there are Federal reason for this). If this happens, eBay will refund the customer from your funds, not require them to return the item, and give you a defect for their trouble. You can avoid that only by sending them return postage and then refunding them in full WHEN THE ITEM IS RETURNED. Do not do the refund before you have the item back -- if they don't send it or USPS loses it, you get to keep your money and the Return will be close. Slim chance, but still a chance.
There's this "Free Returns" option that eBay has, and it changes some of the options and allows you to recover some of the lost funds in some cases (but not ALL cases). I don't use it, at home or at work, so I'll leave that explanation to someone else.
The good news is that bad buyers are generally few and far between. Doesn't feel like that as a new seller, but when you look at a large time period, they generally are. Most new sellers are told to stick to less expensive items until your feedback get much higher - I would recommend 200 minimum, 500 if you're going with big ticket item, and higher if you are planning to sell in high theft categories.
-Bob.
03-20-2023 11:50 PM
If it's the Jessica McClintock I wouldn't worry. I sell those on a regular basis and they go to people who really want them - they've never seemed to me to be a high-scam item.
03-21-2023 12:25 AM
Yes it's the Jessica McClintock dress that I am concerned about. Thank you for your answer, I will def take this into consideration. 🙂
03-21-2023 12:29 AM
I thought it was a scammer because the last name isn't phonetically correct. So i assumed it was a scammer but I'm going to go with it and ship it. I will keep all my fingers crossed and dot all my I's and T's. 🙂 Thank you guys, I'm up late worrying about this!
03-21-2023 02:05 AM
@rosachs wrote:
@slippinjimmy wrote:I think this because the last name is spelled "PRQKYG"
What is it about the last name that makes you think you might get scammed? I'm not having any luck discovering the hidden meaning.
@slippinjimmy: what language would that be and how would you pronounce it. I'm curious.
-Bob.
Well Goggle Translate thinks it might be Welsh, I'm skeptical on that.
A Google search only brought up 3 matches (it's hard to Google and get so few hits!), one from Harvard! the other two not at all relevant. Of course there are now a bunch of matches for this thread.
03-21-2023 03:54 AM
Am I understanding your message correctly?
Because the buyer has a strange user name, you would assume it's a scammer?
That's the buyer's USER name or their actual name seen in the shipping address?
Back in the late 90's or so, when I first signed up with eBay, eBay assigned me a user name which was a combination of letters and numbers, like PZTK23H. They gave me the opportunity to change it, however. Obviously.
And, if you did cancel, what would be your reason?
03-21-2023 10:59 AM
@slippinjimmy wrote:
@rosachs wrote:
@slippinjimmy wrote:I think this because the last name is spelled "PRQKYG"
What is it about the last name that makes you think you might get scammed? I'm not having any luck discovering the hidden meaning.
@slippinjimmy: what language would that be and how would you pronounce it. I'm curious.
-Bob.
Well Goggle Translate thinks it might be Welsh, I'm skeptical on that.
A Google search only brought up 3 matches (it's hard to Google and get so few hits!), one from Harvard! the other two not at all relevant. Of course there are now a bunch of matches for this thread.
No "Q" in the Welsh alphabet.
03-21-2023 11:47 PM
@lavintagestreetxoxo wrote:I thought it was a scammer because the last name isn't phonetically correct. So i assumed it was a scammer but I'm going to go with it and ship it. I will keep all my fingers crossed and dot all my I's and T's. 🙂 Thank you guys, I'm up late worrying about this!
Over the years, I've shipped a good deal of product to the likes of Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Jesus, and all number of gotta-be-related-cuz-our-last-names-match. "Oh the people you will meet when selling on eBay" (with apologies to Dr. Seuss). I finally just gave up on the stress and focused more on the collectors I've met who share similar interests and the other interesting people who like things I like. It's a lot more fun and I sleep much better at night.
At least until the Jardiance tells my bladder that it's that time again.... a mere 1.5-2hrs since the last time I got that signal. Sleeping in 2hr shifts can make you a touch cranky by the end of the week...... 🙂
-Bob.
03-21-2023 11:54 PM
There is also this to consider....
What scammer would create a pseudonym/pen-name for themselves that was sure to attract attention and induce worry? I'd be more worried about John Smith (altho my wife does work for a company founded by a Fred Smith - a distant relative to my maternal grandfather's family line - long story).
Just a thought.
-Bob.
03-22-2023 12:01 PM
@lavintagestreetxoxo wrote:I thought it was a scammer because the last name isn't phonetically correct. So i assumed it was a scammer but I'm going to go with it and ship it. I will keep all my fingers crossed and dot all my I's and T's. 🙂 Thank you guys, I'm up late worrying about this!
Meanwhile Mr. Prqkyg is super bummed wondering why he can't buy nice things from sellers 🙂
This reminds me of Superman's nemesis Mxyzptlk. Maybe if you make your buyer say their name two times backwards they'll go away.