04-08-2021 09:12 AM
Hi.
I've been out of the online selling game for a while (about a year and a half). I just got an order in of some new product and need to place listings. I'm just not sure what to ask for shipping (or include in the price toward this if I say "free" shipping).
I realize I could probably find first-class postage rates through Google for a 4 oz. / 5oz. or 6 oz. envelope packages, which are my typical weights in a 6x9 envelope. That said, eBay at least used to give their sellers a little break off the regular retail rate when you use eBay labels. So, anyone know off hand what the going rate is by first class mail for:
4 oz.
5 oz.
6 oz.
when mailed in a regular, non-padded (if that makes a difference) 6 x 9 envelope?
TIA for any help.
Keith
04-08-2021 09:26 AM
Go to the USPS web site and print out the charts you will need. I keep mine posted near my listing station. Set up your listings for the retail rates plus a dime to cover some packing materials. The ebay discount will cover the rest.
The best thing you can do is always include tracking. Depending on where you live and how small your items are you might just charge the same flat rate for everyone. How I wish I lived in Kansas, but alas I don't.
The post office changed how they price postage a while back so the weight and the distance you ship an item changes the cost to you. More important is how efficient you pack small items. With a little research you will find that many sellers are shipping sharks. They charge far more than necessary for packages that weight under a pound. You can gain a competitive advantage when you figure how to ship for $4 rather than $8.95 on an item.
04-08-2021 09:35 AM
First class is now a "zoned" service, so the rates will vary depending on where you are shipping the item.
04-08-2021 09:51 AM - edited 04-08-2021 09:52 AM
Here is the ebay calculator:
https://www.ebay.com/shp/Calculator
on the 2nd page you can choose whether to see counter prices (to buyer) or ebay prices (to sellers)
04-08-2021 10:02 AM
Here are the current online prices for First Class packages. Note that even though each ounce of weight is listed, there are actually only 4 price brackets, in 4-ounce increments. Retail prices are about a dollar more. You can find all the current USPS rates at
http://pe.usps.com/cpim/ftp/manuals/dmm300/notice123.pdf
04-08-2021 10:46 AM - edited 04-08-2021 10:47 AM
I mostly ship small 4oz packets (assuming) across the country so I work the maximum $3.49 rate into the item price so that's what my customers pay. The 8oz maximum zone price is $3.85.
04-08-2021 01:50 PM
@virginia-internet-sales wrote:So, anyone know off hand what the going rate is by first class mail for:
4 oz. 5 oz. 6 oz.
when mailed in a regular, non-padded (if that makes a difference) 6 x 9 envelope?
First class is based on distance.
04-08-2021 02:42 PM
I personally will not list items with free shipping ,always use a separate shipping charge. Why? some states only charge sales tax on the item itself, some states charge it on the shipping as well. So does help out some but not all customers.
04-08-2021 03:01 PM
Oh, and if you've been out of the game this long... now, there are price breaks at 4 oz., 8 oz., 12 oz. and 15.9 oz.
For example, anything weighing 6 ounces bears the same price as an 8 oz. package. FYI...
04-08-2021 04:34 PM
1. Free shipping is a SCAM!
In order to offer so called "free shipping" you'll need to increase the price of the product by the maximum possible shipping cost. This forces all buyers to pay for the maximum possible shipping cost. Every buyer gets ripped off except for those living in the highest priced zone you ship to as this is what they would pay anyway (zone 8 or 9 depending on your settings).
Free shipping is heavily promoted by eBay for one reason only - because it means higher prices and more money for them.
What generally sells more? Higher or lower priced items? Why would you want to increase the price of your items and make them less likely to sell? Because you want to con buyers into thinking free shipping is a bargain like eBay does?
2. Free shipping is also labor intensive. Every time there is change in postal rates you’ll need to edit all your listings to reflect the increase cost of postage. Is your time worth nothing to you?
3. Calculated shipping allows each buyer to pay according to their location. You are not forcing all buyers to pay the highest possible shipping cost. You can lower the price of your items and sell more.
4. With calculated shipping you don’t need to edit your listings each time postal rates go up. Charge customers the retail rate while you pay the commercial rate. The difference pays the FVF on the shipping.
If you use calculated shipping with commercial rates then you’ll have to edit your listings each time shipping rates go up since you are paying FVF on the shipping.
5. What kind of games are you selling?
Video games recorded in a DVD/CD and housed in a CD case? If so, why would you ship them in a 6” x 9” envelope when such cases are easily breakable? A padded 6” x 9” envelope provides no protection at all - its a piece of paper adhered to a single layer of bubblewrap. Every customer complaint will waste you valuable time so why not take prevent such cases in the first place with proper packaging?
Get some small boxes.
6. Get an application like GarageSale to manage your inventory. Create a series of shipping templates once and then just duplicate them. If you are using Seller Hub you don’t know what you are doing and you want to waste your time.
7. Managed Payments will be forced upon you if you haven’t been already. Be prepared to give eBay and their Netherlands based payment processor Adyen, your bank account number, a power of attorney over your bank account, your social security number, name, address and copy of a photo i.d., with the possibility of them requesting additional information.
With Managed Payments your eBay fees will be immediately deducted from your sales receipts. You can no longer charge those fees to a credit card and earn a rebate from the credit card company. The money deducted for those fees will no longer be sitting in your bank earning interest until its time to pay your credit card for the given billing cycle thus you also loose interest.
Managed Payments also forces you to pay a FVF fee on sales tax eBay collects. First eBay told sellers that collecting sales would be free. Then eBay started routing sales tax through seller’s accounts to the seller had to pay the 2.9% PayPal fee on the sales tax.
Most categories have a 12.55% FVF, thus eBay will be making you pay a 12.55% fee on the sales tax they collect. Yes, eBay is forcing you to pay for collecting sales tax which earns them millions in interest before its transferred to each state.
8. I think it would have made more sense to determine the current selling environment of eBay before buying more inventory. As before, its dying market place which has to turn to scams to inflate its sales figure so eBay management get their bonuses before they leave.
04-10-2021 05:43 AM
@vendiwares wrote:1. Free shipping is a SCAM!
You seem to think everything is a scam.
04-10-2021 11:40 AM
I rarely use free shipping but I’m curious why you say that free shipping results in more money for eBay? Sellers pay the same in fvf either way.
04-10-2021 11:52 AM
@pjcdn2005 wrote:I rarely use free shipping but I’m curious why you say that free shipping results in more money for eBay? Sellers pay the same in fvf either way.
If the seller is rolling the shipping cost into the item price, eBay would make more when the buyer is in a state where shipping is not taxed, since under MP, eBay is collecting FVF on sales tax.
Example: $90 price, $10 shipping, bought by a buyer in a state with a 5% sales tax that doesn't charge tax on shipping: tax is $4.50
Same item, $100 with free shipping, sales tax is $5.00. So eBay gets a cut of a bigger amount.
05-05-2021 03:32 AM
4 oz will cost you between $3.01 - $3.49 depending where it's being mailed to.
5 and 6 oz share the same cost to you which is between $3.46 - $3.85 depending where it's being mailed to.