03-09-2018 10:41 PM
03-18-2018 10:10 AM
03-18-2018 11:23 AM
So many f***ing loopholes in the PP and Ebay system. Glad I am done with it.
03-18-2018 11:57 AM - edited 03-18-2018 11:58 AM
Unless organized enough, and becomes a major issue with scenarios like Eastern European scammer gangs using stolen credit card numbers to set up FedEx Delivery Manager (FDM) accounts and redirect online purchases to reshippers for delivery overseas, or someone in LE gets a wild hair (election time?), in general I doubt anything would happen.
Relatively certain FedEx would go all Sgt Schultz (nod to bubbleman) with "We see nothink", and at best would shut down repeat offender FDM accounts, but that wouldn't prevent damage to an eBay seller by a one time buyer working the scam. It remains to be seen if it will be an actual issue. Just because it's a possible scam tool doesn't mean it will be used enough as such to cause an issue, other than the localized effect on the one eBay seller who loses $1500 - from his perspective the sky has fallen.
03-19-2018 10:13 AM
03-20-2018 09:51 AM
I got some good news this morning. Paypal closed the case and covered the loss:
Dear xxxxxx,
As you know, one of your buyers opened a case with their financial institution.
We're happy to confirm that this transaction was covered under Seller Protection as you met the PayPal Seller Protection requirements. The disputed amount is now available in your PayPal balance.
Here are the case details:
Buyer's name: xxxxxx
Buyer's email: xxxxxx
Buyer's transaction ID: xxxxxx
Your transaction ID:xxxxxx
Transaction date: February 28, 2018
Transaction amount: $1,069.65 USD
Disputed amount:$1,069.65 USD
There is no further action required from you. We'll let you know if we need any further information.
Thank you for your patience during this process. We appreciate your business.
You can find additional information and tips about buying and selling safely on our Business Resource Center. After you log in to your PayPal account, click Tools, and then click Business Resource Center under "Grow your business."
Sincerely,
PayPal
03-20-2018 09:55 AM
CONGRADULATIONS!!!!!!
03-20-2018 10:01 AM
Great news! Thanks for posting an update @powertell
03-20-2018 10:19 AM
03-20-2018 10:24 AM
Yay! So glad to hear it! Thanks for letting us all know.
03-20-2018 10:56 AM
@lookng2015wrote:
Congratulations.
Let's hope PP goes after Fedex for reimbursement as the shipper never gave permission for the recipient to redirect.
Let's hope PP goes after ebay for allowing this loophole in their 'negotiations' with fed ex.
03-20-2018 11:03 AM
@d-k_treasureswrote:Let's hope PP goes after ebay for allowing this loophole in their 'negotiations' with fed ex.
I don't understand your comment. The issue was with PayPal, not eBay. There was no loophole because the OP was covered under PayPal's Seller Protection.
03-20-2018 11:11 AM
@lovtaco0wrote:
@d-k_treasureswrote:Let's hope PP goes after ebay for allowing this loophole in their 'negotiations' with fed ex.I don't understand your comment. The issue was with PayPal, not eBay. There was no loophole because the OP was covered under PayPal's Seller Protection.
The OP can't do anything with Fed Ex because it's ebay's account number. Ebay should have 'no redirect' in their contract. What happens if when the new payment processor doesn't cover UA's the same way as PP does?
Anyone using Fed Ex here should have their own Fed Ex account linked so that there is some control.
03-20-2018 11:16 AM
03-20-2018 11:16 AM
Thanks for providing more information. I didn't realize you were referring to the FedEx account being eBay's.
03-20-2018 11:31 AM
Yay. I love it when the good guys win! Will the same outcome be possible when the new PayPal UA goes into effect May 25. I wonder...