11-23-2022 10:36 AM
I think eBay throttles listings. But, as one person, I can't be sure. AND, how can I do my research when listing items if I can't find what I'm looking for?
SO, Lets have some fun. As sellers, y'all know how to search (for research), as well, if not better, than ANYBODY.
So, here's your challenge.
Somebody you know has a Polaris RZR 800 (it's a little off road atv thing).
And, they need a Rear Differential for it. The whole rear differential, not just pieces or parts.
They are on a budget, but it's not easy to replace. SO, needs to be used, a good price, AND best chance of it being good, no problems.
Their budget is $500 to $1000.
Fitment.....Has to be RZR 800, year does not matter.
Show me your two best choices.
Lets just see how close we all get to the same choices?
11-23-2022 03:12 PM
Well at least they are selling shelves that are next to each other. Otherwise, you would be going from one end to the other. So in a way eBay is helping you out.
11-23-2022 03:27 PM
Possibly more to the point, I have also noticed that when I sell to a relatively unusual location, I will soon get another sale to that location.
The first time I actually noticed this was a sale to Liechtenstein (pop. 38,000) followed that same week by another sale to that tiny country. Two different cities and I didn't know that the country was big enough to have two different cities.
Since then I've noticed this happening again and again. Again at a guess, the algorithms think that if I sold something in Wyoming, more people in Wyoming should see my listings.
11-23-2022 03:31 PM
I disagree that US unemployment is rising.
It has fallen precipitously since 2020 and is now roughly on a par with 2018.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
High credit card debt, and possibly high mortgage debt are burdens on any economy.
11-23-2022 03:39 PM
I should've been more specific: it's USA historical, record high credit card debt.
This means your average, "middle income" family is financing/supplementing their excursions/outings with credit cards.
Here in the USA we've experienced mass layoffs within certain industries, but, the re-defining of unemployed may not include individuals receiving unemployment benefits. I'll have to check on that.
11-23-2022 03:57 PM
Correct. For sure not coincidence. eBay is in "big brother" mode with access to your every movement, and hidden cameras displaying the location of your inventory, but to at least make it easier on you, they let your items that are close together in storage, sell at about the same time. (insert emoji of choice here)
As opposed to throttling, it seems more of a eBay ill programmed, or overloaded search engine.
11-23-2022 04:00 PM
@sapphire_studio wrote:Hasn't eBay actually admitted that they control how fast we grow including the rate in which we sell items? I thought that was kind of common knowledge they don't want us to grow too fast.
Yes, in that there are new seller limits. No secret.
11-24-2022 07:57 AM
At $1000.00, wouldn't it be better to just get a new one?
11-24-2022 08:25 AM
Well yeah there is seller limits but I'm just talking about the algorithm itself doing what it can to make sure you only grow at a steady rate that you can handle as a seller.
People are right that there's definitely something that happens when you start selling to one particular location on one day.
We all know that one day Ebay will be pushing you and other days your store seems shut off. I don't think it's that hard to believe I mean we pay promoted listings for the algorithm to favor us more. Cassini is God here and even if you're not participating in the promoted listings program you're going to sometimes be favored higher and sometimes be favored lower. I really think that eBay monitors how quickly we grow and uses the algorithm To influence that....and I really thought that most people knew this.
11-24-2022 09:40 AM
I dont think it'd be called throttling now that said I can tell you long back when sold w/ the former Onsale supersite they "surfaced" items, Amazon has been accused of that many times as well. In other words you're in California and I'm in NY and we get differing results as the server farms are yielding different results.
Now its not necessarily something intentional in that say server farm "A" has "n" resources, its not infinite as does server farm "B" yet all have interconnection to other farms and assets w/ farms. Now enterprise distributed networking/computing has come a long long long ways since back then but that doesn't mean whomever, Target merchandise has kept up with such matters and/or modified codebases accordingly.
Have to realize complexities of these systems, connection server farms, authentication server farms, transaction, database server farms, template server's on and on.... and on and on. Load balancing is not a perfect science and it's al far far far more complex that what you see come across you're screens that seems so simple, its not simple at all.
11-24-2022 09:56 AM - edited 11-24-2022 10:00 AM
I really think that eBay monitors how quickly we grow and uses the algorithm To influence that....and I really thought that most people knew this.
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I suppose that we can all think what we may :), but to me the idea of eBay monitoring how quickly we grow and throttling growth is a concept that just won't sink into my head................................ it, from my point of view, is that it is illogical to do that.
Part of eBay's "bottom line" is revenue from fees on sales. To block that "in any way" would seem to be a poor business model. YMMV
All that not withstanding, perhaps they do. I have been off time away for hours, and have sold nothing. Usually sell right away when I get back. I have impressions, and views, so I suppose my thought that eBay is throttling me for being away is squashed 🙂
As for growth. I've been on eBay for a while, so have grown as big as I ever will.
11-24-2022 10:53 AM - edited 11-24-2022 10:54 AM
Even using exactly the same search terms, search results will vary by searcher. That's because eBay's search engine, just like Google and Bing and others, returns results based in part on your own history of browsing and searching, etc. They have your number, and they return results accordingly.
As for eBay "throttling" anyone's listings, that would mean that eBay is "throttling" its own revenue and, weird as good old eBay is, it isn't that weird.
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11-24-2022 11:11 AM
@redlinear wrote:I should thank eBay for letting people see my stuff every now and then.
That makes lots of sense.
11-24-2022 11:40 AM
@sapphire_studio wrote:Well yeah there is seller limits but I'm just talking about the algorithm itself doing what it can to make sure you only grow at a steady rate that you can handle as a seller.
People are right that there's definitely something that happens when you start selling to one particular location on one day.
We all know that one day Ebay will be pushing you and other days your store seems shut off. I don't think it's that hard to believe I mean we pay promoted listings for the algorithm to favor us more. Cassini is God here and even if you're not participating in the promoted listings program you're going to sometimes be favored higher and sometimes be favored lower. I really think that eBay monitors how quickly we grow and uses the algorithm To influence that....and I really thought that most people knew this.
You can promote nothing and still rank very high in search results if your items have high conversion rates. Daily Refinement when he was doing ebay didn't promote anything and ranked very high in search results because he did everything the search engine wanted included having the good prices that caused high conversion rates. Ebay favors sellers whose items sell when people click on them. Also, most sellers just DO NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT MOST CUSTOMERS SEARCH PRICE LOWEST FIRST. Even though they search that same way when they buy things they think that somehow their customers are doing something else and wonder why their item that has 3 or 36 or 360 cheaper competitors never sells. The cheapest ones sell and are replaced with other cheap ones continually and number 36 never sells unless the market changes over a long period of time and that old bad price somehow becomes good. A huge number of ebay sellers literally only ever sell anything because their guessed price was too low or that their high guess became right much, much later.
11-24-2022 12:21 PM
If somebody is looking for an item eBay definitely will do everything they can to sell it to them. I guess it's more about choosing which of the sellers they want to push towards that person to buy that item. A lot of people will sort by price taking it out of Cassini's hands but there are a lot of people that don't bother and just trust the algorithm is giving them the best results, and they are in a hurry and the price is about what they expected so they buy. I sell beauty products all the time that are way higher priced than other people and maybe this is why I don't know.
Also the same logic eBay uses to make sure we don't grow TOO fast by capping us on our available listings, they may use in the algorithm to help control our growth. There really is a thing where people can grow too fast and then completely burn out and then eBay loses a valuable seller.
Cassini is definitely a mystery. I'm not trying to complain about Cassini here at all... I just always heard that she definitely controls people's growth and I assumed it was true.
11-24-2022 12:22 PM
@redlinear wrote:I think eBay throttles listings. But, as one person, I can't be sure. AND, how can I do my research when listing items if I can't find what I'm looking for?
SO, Lets have some fun. As sellers, y'all know how to search (for research), as well, if not better, than ANYBODY.
So, here's your challenge.
Somebody you know has a Polaris RZR 800 (it's a little off road atv thing).
And, they need a Rear Differential for it. The whole rear differential, not just pieces or parts.
They are on a budget, but it's not easy to replace. SO, needs to be used, a good price, AND best chance of it being good, no problems.
Their budget is $500 to $1000.
Fitment.....Has to be RZR 800, year does not matter.
Show me your two best choices.
Lets just see how close we all get to the same choices?
If your having problems finding it on ebay, use Google and put “Ebay” before or after your search string.
the Google search engine is more efficient than Ebays.