Platforms getting on board with ebay standard

[dr.clockenstien]

I am making this announcement only because there is a pattern of behavior that will affect all who sell from the 'middle man'.

I understand that many here also use other platforms to make sales, and for now, I am only on etsy, who is now raising the MAIN fee from 3.5% to 5%.

Plus they will now apply the fee for shipping like everyone else.

Just because everyone else does it does not make it any more justifiable!

While this seems like a better FVF, there are more hidden fees that made the initial 3.5% nearly equal to ebay's 10%.

With that said, we all know the changes that have been made on ebay, and the 'standard' that others will begin to follow.

The wide gap is now getting wider, and platforms will now begin to use more weight to step on our necks to make money.

Just a thought:

We may as well jack up our prices like 15% because we won't sell at our lower rates anyway.

I would like to see the response from the platforms then.

No sale of $10 is as good as no sale $100.

Buyers will be turned off from the high prices, sellers are already turned off by Scams, and listing manipulation.

Let them buy from China, they will make ebay's bed soon enough.

Once someone else opens another site, we could go there, and sell at our normal rates for 'lowball'

prices.

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Seriously, this is already bad enough, and I think it's senseless to keep paying our abusers.

[emerald40]

Online sites are not for everyone.

That is why there is CL, flea markets, yard sales.

[goodluckselling]

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

I am making this announcement only because there is a pattern of behavior that will affect all who sell from the 'middle man'.

I understand that many here also use other platforms to make sales, and for now, I am only on etsy, who is now raising the MAIN fee from 3.5% to 5%.

Plus they will now apply the fee for shipping like everyone else.

Just because everyone else does it does not make it any more justifiable!

While this seems like a better FVF, there are more hidden fees that made the initial 3.5% nearly equal to ebay's 10%.

With that said, we all know the changes that have been made on ebay, and the 'standard' that others will begin to follow.

The wide gap is now getting wider, and platforms will now begin to use more weight to step on our necks to make money.

Just a thought:

We may as well jack up our prices like 15% because we won't sell at our lower rates anyway.

I would like to see the response from the platforms then.

No sale of $10 is as good as no sale $100.

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I doubt you would have any effect on eBay.  They complete over 1 Billion transactions daily.  If you are not getting the sale on eBay someone else on eBay will.

Click here to see the stats

Good Luck Selling!

[dr.clockenstien]

I understand what you mean.

But don't you think that these changes will make it less oppotrtune for more than everyone else?

Why did it used to be for everyone, and now it's not?

[dr.clockenstien]

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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I doubt you would have any effect on eBay.  They complete over 1 Billion transactions daily.  If you are not getting the sale on eBay someone else on eBay will.

Click here to see the stats

Good Luck Selling!

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I read that post earlier, and I honestly think that it is bunk.

Your article was about a cooling system for the mainframes, and I believe they exaggerated the numbers to sound impressive.

[emerald40]

I have been on ebay for 19 years.

A lot has changed over almost 2 decades and ebay had to change along with it.

What worked then, would not work now.

I know I would no longer be buying here without buyer protection.

What changes are bothering you?

[dr.clockenstien]

The ususal.

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@emerald40 wrote:

I have been on ebay for 19 years.

A lot has changed over almost 2 decades and ebay had to change along with it.

What worked then, would not work now.

I know I would no longer be buying here without buyer protection.

What changes are bothering you?

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The usual ones.

Site manipulation, return standards, overall rating system to shove sellers to raise prices, which sellers are accused of being too high anyway.

[divwido]

Why are you posting that here?  This is eBay.  And  yes, that sites boards are nothing but complaints.

The theory is the extra money will bring in more buyers.  Unlikely, but no one gets a vote.

All you acheived by posting this here was zero.

[goodluckselling]

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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I doubt you would have any effect on eBay.  They complete over 1 Billion transactions daily.  If you are not getting the sale on eBay someone else on eBay will.

Click here to see the stats

Good Luck Selling!

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I read that post earlier, and I honestly think that it is bunk.

Your article was about a cooling system for the mainframes, and I believe they exaggerated the numbers to sound impressive.

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The article is from a third party.  The article is also a few years old.  The actual number of transaction in 2018 eBay is over 2 Billion daily.  You have to keep in mind that eBay runs 23 different country sites, apps, classified sites, etc.

Now what you call a transaction, what I call a transaction and what is actually an eBay transaction I am certain are different things.  You and I as buyers and seller think in terms of physical products and that number does seem way to high, but the truth of the matter is eBay has to count all transaction for the marketplace

• third party product sales
• sellers making there monthly fees payments
• third party ads like ad choice
• affiliate marketing fees,
• external search engines purchased ads
• promoted listings transactions
• shipping labels purchased through the platform
• dozens of different types of transactions we do not really know about or should have to know about.

Click here for a list of eBay sites

Good Luck Selling!

[dr.clockenstien]

Okay,

Thats the point.

The business model is all over, no matter what, a big number of us are achieving zero.

[goodluckselling]

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

Okay,

Thats the point.

The business model is all over, no matter what, a big number of us are achieving zero.

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The point is by raising your prices 15% or more is not going to really help out your zero actions you are complaining about?  You might get the occasional sales at a higher profit margin and if that is okay with you then you have your answer.

Good Luck Selling!

[dr.clockenstien]

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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I doubt you would have any effect on eBay.  They complete over 1 Billion transactions daily.  If you are not getting the sale on eBay someone else on eBay will.

Click here to see the stats

Good Luck Selling!

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I read that post earlier, and I honestly think that it is bunk.

Your article was about a cooling system for the mainframes, and I believe they exaggerated the numbers to sound impressive.

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The article is from a third party.  The article is also a few years old.  The actual number of transaction in 2018 eBay is over 2 Billion daily.  You have to keep in mind that eBay runs 23 different country sites, apps, classified sites, etc.

Now what you call a transaction, what I call a transaction and what is actually an eBay transaction I am certain are different things.  You and I as buyers and seller think in terms of physical products and that number does seem way to high, but the truth of the matter is eBay has to count all transaction for the marketplace

• third party product sales
• sellers making there monthly fees payments
• third party ads like ad choice
• affiliate marketing fees,
• external search engines purchased ads
• promoted listings transactions
• shipping labels purchased through the platform
• dozens of different types of transactions we do not really know about or should have to know about.

Click here for a list of eBay sites

Good Luck Selling!

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That looks more to me like spending money.

I was under the impression that ebay's was selling figure.

Had it been that, I still struggle to the notion that, if there were 6B people on this planet then, how do the numbers figure one out of every six people?

[ted_200]

Why are you posting that here?  This is eBay.  And  yes, that sites boards are nothing but complaints.

That's odd.  Their boards used to be nothing but love!  In fact, when I first showed up on this Board (here on eBay), it was mostly nothing but love too.  So hiring people from eBay and following the eBay way doesn't produce any better reaction when it's done somewhere other than on eBay?  Shocked, I tell ya!

The theory is the extra money will bring in more buyers.  Unlikely, but no one gets a vote.

Well, they are supposedly going to launch an American TV ad campaign later this year, but it's not like they needed to raise fees by 43% to do that.  Hopefully the ads will prove better than some of eBay's recent campaigns.

All you acheived by posting this here was zero.

I don't know about that.  With the higher fees, plus listing fees over there, it may cause some sellers there (most of whom were here at one point anyhow) to come back here... at least for those sellers who list a lot but sell very little, it makes eBay a more competitive venue.  And we all know... eBay definitely needs more sellers who list a lot but sell very little! 

[goodluckselling]

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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@dr.clockenstien wrote:

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@goodluckselling wrote:

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I doubt you would have any effect on eBay.  They complete over 1 Billion transactions daily.  If you are not getting the sale on eBay someone else on eBay will.

Click here to see the stats

Good Luck Selling!

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I read that post earlier, and I honestly think that it is bunk.

Your article was about a cooling system for the mainframes, and I believe they exaggerated the numbers to sound impressive.

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The article is from a third party.  The article is also a few years old.  The actual number of transaction in 2018 eBay is over 2 Billion daily.  You have to keep in mind that eBay runs 23 different country sites, apps, classified sites, etc.

Now what you call a transaction, what I call a transaction and what is actually an eBay transaction I am certain are different things.  You and I as buyers and seller think in terms of physical products and that number does seem way to high, but the truth of the matter is eBay has to count all transaction for the marketplace

• third party product sales
• sellers making there monthly fees payments
• third party ads like ad choice
• affiliate marketing fees,
• external search engines purchased ads
• promoted listings transactions
• shipping labels purchased through the platform
• dozens of different types of transactions we do not really know about or should have to know about.

Click here for a list of eBay sites

Good Luck Selling!

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That looks more to me like spending money.

I was under the impression that ebay's was selling figure.

Had it been that, I still struggle to the notion that, if there were 6B people on this planet then, how do the numbers figure one out of every six people?

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I can understand your lack of understanding how business works.  eBay has to reports its transactions as I mentioned earlier.  I also tried to explain what a transaction might be defined by eBay without success to your level of experience. 

The bottom line is these third party reporting agency is picking up details from a revenue report eBay is required to fill out and report.  What the articles are not telling you is how the definition is being defined.  I am trying to give you a better perspective and yet you are struggling to understand that eBay is a legitimate business that is responsible for there reports and I find it really hard to believe you can not undertsand this fact!

What part of any transaction on eBay from buyer could result in perhaps a dozen transaction eBay has to report?

Fact - eBay operates on about 10 to 11% profit margin.  Could you operate on that margin?

Good Luck Selling!

[yuzuha]

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@emerald40 wrote:

Online sites are not for everyone.

That is why there is CL, flea markets, yard sales.

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And some items are not a good fit for selling online.  Personally, I won't even buy something to resell if I can't cut my asking price by at least 20% and still make a profit on it.  I've seen sellers here talk about how their profit margin is only 10-15%... well, no wonder they aren't making any money!