Paypal

[jabarno54]

How do I go about removing Paypal as a payment option. Because of their recent changes I'm going to close my account. I don't agree with their view on most things and I will not pay any $2500 fines imposed on me.

[bashort]

I wonder if Elon would consider re acquiring PayPal, that would be great as far as I am concerned. 

[nocoolnamejane]

Musk was part of PayPal at its early beginnings and he cashed out long ago.

[itsjustasprain]

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@monster-deals wrote:

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@sapphire_studio wrote:

will not allow PayPal to bill you for speaking out of Woke.

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what exactly does that mean?

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@sapphire_studio: What is your understanding of what the term 'woke' means?

[sapphire_studio]

Yoked to the system,  Brain washed to believe what the media tells them

[house*of*paws]

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@bashort wrote:

I wonder if Elon would consider re acquiring PayPal, that would be great as far as I am concerned. 

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@bashort 
Have you been following how Elon has handled the acquisition of Twitter … especially the past 1-2 weeks?

I’m not seeing even a glimmer of competence in the actions he’s taken so far.  Many are predicting a rapid, downward spiral into bankruptcy. 

[house*of*paws]

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@sapphire_studio wrote:

 I'm not a Republican or a Democrat I really think the Elite just pit them against each other.

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Please define ‘the Elite’ for me.  It seems to be a constantly shifting  definition that I’ve never been able to grasp.

[BTW, I plan to watch the video as well.  I try to educate myself with as many points of views as I can … as long as they value facts.]

[doc-holmes]

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@sapphire_studio wrote:

Yoked to the system,  Brain washed to believe what the media tells them

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The original definition of woke was alert to racial prejudice and discrimination." It has now been twisted to inlude everything certain people don't like. Like "communist. " Some people love to call Trudeau a communist here in Canada, but have yet to mention one communist policy he has they don't like, because there isn't one. 

[sapphire_studio]

It's definitely hard to know exactly who the Elite are. It's just the hidden hand that controls all of the politicians ( it's my personal belief that no election has ever been real and they've all been predetermined by these people).  It is not Klaus schwab that's just a scapegoat. It's people we probably have never heard of Maybe even aliens who really knows. But we are 100% cattle and they feed on our loosh energy and try to get us emotionally riled up constantly.

 Let me know what you think of the video it's a trip. 🥰

[mam98031]

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@sapphire_studio wrote:

It's definitely hard to know exactly who the Elite are. It's just the hidden hand that controls all of the politicians ( it's my personal belief that no election has ever been real and they've all been predetermined by these people).  It is not Klaus schwab that's just a scapegoat. It's people we probably have never heard of Maybe even aliens who really knows. But we are 100% cattle and they feed on our loosh energy and try to get us emotionally riled up constantly.

 Let me know what you think of the video it's a trip. 🥰

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Interesting.  I have found that a position such as yours is usually used to justify not voting.  My mom use to use that excuse all the time.  Over time she changed and did vote the last decade or so of her life.

[sapphire_studio]

Yeah not only do I not vote but I've been actively spending a lot of time lately on a right wing forum trying to get other people to not get excited about the return of trump and to see How both sides are being played.

 My 2 best friends that live in LA (they are married and gay)  Are very right wing and give me an extremely hard time about not voting. I still cannot get them to watch that In Shadow video so I'm really impressed that some left wing people here are willing to watch it. 

 I live in Oregon so I can mail in my ballot. It's definitely not a laziness thing. I take my vote extremely seriously and I choose to make a statement to not support the entire corrupt system. The last time I voted was when Obama ran against Romney and I wrote in Ron Paul.

 I really want to unify people not divide them.

[mam98031]

You are entitled to your opinions just as others are entitled to theirs.  

[sapphire_studio]

100%...Amen! 🙂

[kh-cathy]

Hi everyone,

This discussion has gotten a bit off topic. Please bring the discussion back to subject established in the original post.

Thank you.

[reallynicestamps]

Uh, we are talking about paypal punishing people for exercising 1 amendment rights ANYWHERE! Not just on a paypal platform. It could be a sign in your yard

@bashort

The first amendment to the US Constitution forbids THE GOVERNMENT from censoring.

The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Paypal is not a governmental body. Nor is eBay. Nor Twitter. Nor the New York Times.

I'm not even an American, and I know that.

You can say what you like, but so can everyone else, and that includes a private company refusing you the right to use their platform.

[nocoolnamejane]

The way I see it is PayPal is a private company, just like a mall.

A mall can choose what they allow their store space to sell or not. It's in the contract. And if you agree not to set up shop in the mall to sell anti Black people, anti Jewish people, anti gay people, or anti women shirts, for example, and you go ahead and still sell them, they can fine you.

PayPal is the same. It's really just freedom of enterprise.

After that, "being woke" is an expression borrowed from African American Vernacular English to mean someone who is sensitive to societal inequalities and discrimination, especially when it comes to race. Some people have been using it as a slur against everything they don't like, just like they did with communist, snowflake, millenial and SJW.  But that some are using is as a slur against anti-racists, considering its origins, is troubling.