eBay

rosannetiques · ‎05-29-2019

When ebay puts their new shipping charges and rules into effect, I believe that this will be the beginning of the end, both for Sellers, Buyers and ebay. Whenever ebay has changed their formats and user fees over the years, I have put up with it because it still remained a great selling site. However, this takes the cake. Ebay will soon be known as a seller's site for TINY ITEMS because mailing fees are going to be out of sight. What the hell are they thinking?

nobody*s_perfect · ‎05-31-2019

@goodluckselling wrote: ... When we look at the eBay quarterly reports it shows they operate on about 10% profit margin. Granted they do billions of dollars every quarter but the fact still remains that I could not operate on just 10% margins and I will assume you can not either? ...

According to investopedia: "the average operating profit margin for the S&P 500 was 10.7% for the fourth quarter of 2018. A company that has an operating profit margin higher than 10.7% would have outperformed the overall market."

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/041415/what-considered-healthy-operating-profit-margin.asp

jeannicho22 · ‎05-31-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do. So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down. This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc. Large companies.

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc. that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power. They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find. Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc. ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.

eBay ABSOLUTELY gets a better rate and does profit off of every single shipping label your purchase. Please do not ask me for a link, I'm telling you they profit..... ABSOLUTELY and without a doubt.

mam98031 · ‎05-31-2019

@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do. So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down. This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc. Large companies.

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc. that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power. They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find. Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc. ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.
eBay ABSOLUTELY gets a better rate and does profit off of every single shipping label your purchase. Please do not ask me for a link, I'm telling you they profit..... ABSOLUTELY and without a doubt.

I did NOT say that Ebay doesn't make money on labels. So don't twist what I said to fit what you want to discuss. What I was discussing was completely different. We were discussing the rates we pay for shipping and what Ebay can or can't negotiate when it comes to that.

Does Ebay make money on labels. Most likely. But I don't have a problem paying a company for a service they render to me. I want people to pay me for a service I provide for them, so I see this all as the same thing. I do NOT expect Ebay or any other company to provide a service to me and for free. And on this same theme, Ebay would not be the only company doing this. There is Etsy, Amazon and more.

But I think the most glaring one would be to us stamps.com as an example. They have the SAME FCP domestic rates as we have here on Ebay and everywhere else on the internet. Since the majority of their business is selling postage, I think it is safe to bet that they stay in business by making money off of it. But again, I take no issue in paying a company for services they render.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

beez5720 · ‎05-31-2019

Ebay does not set shipping prices. Not sure what people do not understand that ebay is NOT a shipping company..

jeannicho22 · ‎05-31-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do. So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down. This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc. Large companies.

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc. that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power. They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find. Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc. ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.
eBay ABSOLUTELY gets a better rate and does profit off of every single shipping label your purchase. Please do not ask me for a link, I'm telling you they profit..... ABSOLUTELY and without a doubt.
I did NOT say that Ebay doesn't make money on labels. So don't twist what I said to fit what you want to discuss. What I was discussing was completely different. We were discussing the rates we pay for shipping and what Ebay can or can't negotiate when it comes to that.

Does Ebay make money on labels. Most likely. But I don't have a problem paying a company for a service they render to me. I want people to pay me for a service I provide for them, so I see this all as the same thing. I do NOT expect Ebay or any other company to provide a service to me and for free. And on this same theme, Ebay would not be the only company doing this. There is Etsy, Amazon and more.

But I think the most glaring one would be to us stamps.com as an example. They have the SAME FCP domestic rates as we have here on Ebay and everywhere else on the internet. Since the majority of their business is selling postage, I think it is safe to bet that they stay in business by making money off of it. But again, I take no issue in paying a company for services they render.

I wasn't twisting anything. I made a statement.

mam98031 · ‎05-31-2019

@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do. So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down. This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc. Large companies.

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc. that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power. They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find. Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc. ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.
eBay ABSOLUTELY gets a better rate and does profit off of every single shipping label your purchase. Please do not ask me for a link, I'm telling you they profit..... ABSOLUTELY and without a doubt.
I did NOT say that Ebay doesn't make money on labels. So don't twist what I said to fit what you want to discuss. What I was discussing was completely different. We were discussing the rates we pay for shipping and what Ebay can or can't negotiate when it comes to that.

Does Ebay make money on labels. Most likely. But I don't have a problem paying a company for a service they render to me. I want people to pay me for a service I provide for them, so I see this all as the same thing. I do NOT expect Ebay or any other company to provide a service to me and for free. And on this same theme, Ebay would not be the only company doing this. There is Etsy, Amazon and more.

But I think the most glaring one would be to us stamps.com as an example. They have the SAME FCP domestic rates as we have here on Ebay and everywhere else on the internet. Since the majority of their business is selling postage, I think it is safe to bet that they stay in business by making money off of it. But again, I take no issue in paying a company for services they render.
I wasn't twisting anything. I made a statement.

Your post suggested [since you responded to my post] that I said something I did not. I take no issue with discussing the subject. Just don't make it seem as if I said something I did not say.

I'm a big girl and I can stick my own feet in my mouth without any help.

mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999

jeannicho22 · ‎05-31-2019

@mam98031 wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@jeannicho22 wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
Mam...its not individuals buying. Ebay is purchasing every single label from usps on our behalf and charging us. That is why there is a giant logo EBAY above our names. Yes ebay gets a better price. That is why there is a slight discount at all available.
You are confusing two different types of the ability to negotiate a rate.

A company that ships from ONE location or maybe a handful of locations but at a high volume can get better rates because they sort their mail or maybe some other things that normally USPS would do. So it saves USPS time and money so they will negotiate that rate down. This can happen for companies like Target, Amazon [when from an Amazon warehouse], Walmart etc. Large companies.

But a company like Ebay, Etsy, etc. that ship from multiple locations, literally millions of locations, do not have the same power. They can't negotiate this rate because they can NOT presort or do anything else to warrant it.

Ebay's rates for FCP Domestic are the SAME and every single online provider of postage you will be able to find. Ebay, Etsy, Amazon, Stamps.com, etc. ALL the same rate for FCP Domestic.
eBay ABSOLUTELY gets a better rate and does profit off of every single shipping label your purchase. Please do not ask me for a link, I'm telling you they profit..... ABSOLUTELY and without a doubt.
I did NOT say that Ebay doesn't make money on labels. So don't twist what I said to fit what you want to discuss. What I was discussing was completely different. We were discussing the rates we pay for shipping and what Ebay can or can't negotiate when it comes to that.

Does Ebay make money on labels. Most likely. But I don't have a problem paying a company for a service they render to me. I want people to pay me for a service I provide for them, so I see this all as the same thing. I do NOT expect Ebay or any other company to provide a service to me and for free. And on this same theme, Ebay would not be the only company doing this. There is Etsy, Amazon and more.

But I think the most glaring one would be to us stamps.com as an example. They have the SAME FCP domestic rates as we have here on Ebay and everywhere else on the internet. Since the majority of their business is selling postage, I think it is safe to bet that they stay in business by making money off of it. But again, I take no issue in paying a company for services they render.
I wasn't twisting anything. I made a statement.
Your post suggested [since you responded to my post] that I said something I did not. I take no issue with discussing the subject. Just don't make it seem as if I said something I did not say.

I'm a big girl and I can stick my own feet in my mouth without any help.

The statement you made was there for anyone to read and I did not "make it seem" as though you said something you did not say. As I said, I made a statement.

kh-gary · ‎05-31-2019

Hello everyone,

This thread is getting a bit heated. Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful as required by the Rules of Engagement.

Thank you for your cooperation.

frenchblueshutters · ‎05-31-2019

I have seen No Notices or Signs at the Post Office at all... But I have decided That I Still Can Use USPS for Most of My packages and UPS or FedEx For Larger Ones. They are Not Raising their Rates. No Reason to Get All Upset. There is always some way around things. I expect USPS to Lose Tons of Package shippers, So they May Just Shoot themselves in the Foot on That one.

nobody*s_perfect · ‎05-31-2019

@frenchblueshutters wrote:
I have seen No Notices or Signs at the Post Office at all... .

USPS generally doesn't post signs regarding changes in policies or prices.

At the PO counter, the only practical effect of the upcoming policy change is that the dimensional weight will be charged for all Priority Mail packages that are over 1 cubic foot, rather than only for those that are going to Zones 5 - 9. In other threads, some posters have mentioned that their local PO staff aren't even aware of that relatively minor (from their perspective) change. But it's 3 weeks away, so there's still time for them to catch up.

myjunqueyourtreasure · ‎05-31-2019

@fern*wood wrote:
The part that got me in the ebay announcement about the new dimensional rates to all zones was their suggestion to help our costs:

"Use eBay Labels when possible for discounts on postage and renegotiate carrier contracts."

So, are they telling us to renegotiate carrier contracts or am I misreading this?

Yep - like that's even possible for 98% of their sellers

Reality is the leading cause of stress.

myjunqueyourtreasure · ‎05-31-2019

@dazzlecity wrote:
but what if ebay stopped charging fees ON shipping - that might help ease the burden?

Maybe, but we know that will never happen. ebay isn't known for cutting off a revenue stream.

Reality is the leading cause of stress.

myjunqueyourtreasure · ‎05-31-2019

@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:
It doesn’t matter what brand it was. That’s where the saying came from and I think it’s ghoulish and inappropriate to use.

also highly ridiculous to compare eBay to mass murder.

Is it murder when they drink it willingly?

Tbh. with respect to your feelings about it, the term has now become common usage and means something just a little different.

Reality is the leading cause of stress.