06-19-2019 09:59 AM
10-30-2019 06:16 AM
@laurabeardsley wrote:Obviously this has been going on for some time now. After the terrible earnings report I thought Ebay might do something to jump start the sales but once again no news from this company of any kind. This is quite peculiar. Why would a company that can see its profits going down so badly not try to salvage itself by making positive changes?Giving promotions to the sellers, taking away some of the bad choices they made? It is as if they are purposely trying to go under. I never get any info. from them at all and I have been selling here for 18 years now. I keep hoping for some positive changes but instead -- Dead Silence!
I guess they hope we just all go away? Silently.
10-30-2019 06:54 AM
@silverado-800-925 wrote:This message is for EVERYONE to read, buyers, sellers, and eBay people. Before we get into the chaos of the present 6/19/19 eBay, let's just review the 4 levels of the "pyramid" eBay is founded on. The Base of eBay (the MOST important part) is "stuff for sale" this brings in "usual" income, which is 10% of the sale for eBay. The next (most important in eBay working pyramid) is the Sellers, or the origins of the items up for sale. This can typically bring in extra income for eBay if the Seller has a store and pays fees or sponsors items (get to that in a second). Next important is the Buyer, who makes the sale happen, giving eBay 10% from the seller on their sold item. Then at the top of the pyramid is eBay, who digitally houses, services data, protects and insures items for buyers and sellers.
Clearly sometime over the past 7 months or so some serious changes occurred in HOW eBay functions from the perspective of the Buyer. Yes, Sellers it changed quite a bit for you as well. Rapidly many long term mega sellers started noticing huge drops in their sales. Small sellers with less than 50 items started noticing huge drops in sales. This caused much of the eBay community to panic, and start "sponsoring" their items up for sale giving eBay a larger cut. This did lead to eBay having a great first quarter but it was at the expense of the "middle of the pyramid". It was not higher sales generating cash, it was desperate sellers, the origins of the BASE of eBay's business pyramid. This boost in capital will be short lived, simply because it erodes the very BASE the company is founded on. Back to the Buyers, the main generators of the capital for eBay.
The buying "experience" has been GREATLY altered by these changes made upon the desperate sellers. Simply put "SPONSORED" items are nothing more than items constantly REPEATED in the thread of the category of items you are looking at. For most buyers, the first time they scroll past an item, aka "turn the item down" it really means they do not want that item. Constantly making it come up over and over does not necessarily make it sell, or sell faster. However, constantly making the same item come up as a buyer scrolls through the item feed makes fatigue happen. So if there "were" 500 items in the "buyers" search, in the old eBay maybe a few would repeat. Now, new eBay that same search with 500 individual items has a search scroll with 1,000 - 2,500 items, clearly with a ton of item repetition or "sponsored" items. The Buyer ends up having repetition fatigue, and does not complete looking through all of the 500 "individual" items in the search. This is WHY sales have decreased.
With decreased sales comes less MOTIVATION for Sellers to list items up for sale on eBay. The items for sale are the Base of eBay as a company. Sellers are getting hit with hurdles and increased payments to sell their items. These actions are unfortunately ERODING the Base of eBay as a functioning company. It is also leading to an increase in the size and amount of items for sale on other sites like Poshmark and a bunch more.
Personally, I USED to sell about $1,000-$2,000 per month on eBay. Before the changes. I would then spend ALL of it BUYING stuff ON eBay. So eBay "used" to get $100-$200 a month from my sales. Then eBay would get another $100-$200 a month from the sellers of the items I bought with my eBay sales money. So, that "used" to be $200-$400 a MONTH in cash sent to eBay. NOW in the chaos of eBay 6/19/19 I'm selling about $250 a month. This brings eBay's income from me down from up to $400 per month, to a measly $50 per month. So, in 2019 the new changes to eBay have cost eBay's cash flow from me to DECREASE up to 87.5% EVERY month compared to "before the change".
Great post. This pretty much sums up what's going on with many of us here. I had no idea that this was going on that long. For you eBay cheerleaders who need proof and facts, all of us have our personal experiences that are all verifiable.
Fact: I recently started selling again in September and used the 50 free listings and sold 41 items (excluding one unpaid item). I foolishly believed opening a store would help me sell more items, but since I did, I've sold only one item even with three times as many listings. My experience is not unique, as all of the eBayers I'm following selling 500+ items, none of them Chinese sellers, are experiencing the same or worse.
10-30-2019 07:00 AM
Yes, sales don't happen as much as they did over 6 months ago. We're down tens of thousands a month with barely any sales during the week. It's as if eBay turned something off and buyers stopped coming. We're looking into other options outside of eBay. If this continues eBay will lose a ton of sellers, buyers and money.
10-30-2019 07:09 AM
One way that eBay can crack down on Chinese sellers misrepresenting themselves is to require all domestic transactions to be delivered within 10 days of shipment or the buyer gets their money back. Almost every shipping service in the USA will complete a delivery within that time frame. The only time it takes longer is when it is shipped or sourced from outside the USA.
Also, if a buyer receives an item that is shipped from a location other than what is listed on the eBay listing, the buyer should get a complete refund and keep the item. (NO DROP SHIPMENT).
What the Chinese sellers have started to do is open a mail drop address in California (which is basically a mail box at a place like Mail Boxes Etc.) which they list on their eBay account and then ship from China.
If eBay really wants to crack down and not become just an outlet for Chinese sellers, they need to create policies to counteract the fraudulent Chinese business practices.
10-30-2019 07:27 AM
@elvia2207 wrote:One way that eBay can crack down on Chinese sellers misrepresenting themselves is to require all domestic transactions to be delivered within 10 days of shipment or the buyer gets their money back. Almost every shipping service in the USA will complete a delivery within that time frame. The only time it takes longer is when it is shipped or sourced from outside the USA.
Also, if a buyer receives an item that is shipped from a location other than what is listed on the eBay listing, the buyer should get a complete refund and keep the item. (NO DROP SHIPMENT).
What the Chinese sellers have started to do is open a mail drop address in California (which is basically a mail box at a place like Mail Boxes Etc.) which they list on their eBay account and then ship from China.
If eBay really wants to crack down and not become just an outlet for Chinese sellers, they need to create policies to counteract the fraudulent Chinese business practices.
Who knows what kind of deal they made with China? If the deal that they made earns them more revenue and plumps up their numbers in the end, which I suspect that it has, they're not going to help sellers. That's why we need more regulation from the government and vote for the politicians who will fight this and not help them.
10-30-2019 07:46 AM
@laurabeardsley wrote:Obviously this has been going on for some time now. After the terrible earnings report I thought Ebay might do something to jump start the sales but once again no news from this company of any kind. This is quite peculiar. Why would a company that can see its profits going down so badly not try to salvage itself by making positive changes?Giving promotions to the sellers, taking away some of the bad choices they made? It is as if they are purposely trying to go under. I never get any info. from them at all and I have been selling here for 18 years now. I keep hoping for some positive changes but instead -- Dead Silence!
My guess is they are suppressing the small stores temporarily as they are doing maintenance to get ready for the holidays. Just a hunch.