New managed payment

[slati_2013]

So today I went to purchase an item I purchase regularly. When I tried to pay with my usual one click, it said the seller now used managed payments and wanted me to pay with a credit card. No Paypal. I simply hit the back button. I wonder how many sales the seller has lost using managed payments? Why no PayPal option? Ebay can't simply after all these years of insisting on PayPal now switch to credit cards with no PayPal option to wean us off PayPal.

[sly_kitten2018]

We will all have to start reading the payments section of every listing. Next summer, paypal will once again be a payment option for sellers using the managed payments flow.

[everything-from-trinkets-to-treasures]

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@slati_2013 wrote:

So today I went to purchase an item I purchase regularly. When I tried to pay with my usual one click, it said the seller now used managed payments and wanted me to pay with a credit card. No Paypal. I simply hit the back button. I wonder how many sales the seller has lost using managed payments? Why no PayPal option? Ebay can't simply after all these years of insisting on PayPal now switch to credit cards with no PayPal option to wean us off PayPal.

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PayPal is not part of the managed payments at this time.  It will be added later. This seller opted in to the managed payments early so it is what it is. You can pay using any of the options they give you to do so.
Ebay can also change whatever it wants whenever it wants..it is their site.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@slati_2013 wrote:

So today I went to purchase an item I purchase regularly. When I tried to pay with my usual one click, it said the seller now used managed payments and wanted me to pay with a credit card. No Paypal. I simply hit the back button. I wonder how many sales the seller has lost using managed payments? Why no PayPal option? Ebay can't simply after all these years of insisting on PayPal now switch to credit cards with no PayPal option to wean us off PayPal.

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I understand how you feel.   During this initial roll out, Paypal is not offered, but it supposedly will be added in the summer of 2019.  

[slati_2013]

I have no problem with the new managed payments system. It is their site, they can use any payment system they want. I am just so used to buying stuff and just clicking "confirm and pay" that when I had to set up my credit card, laziness kicked in. I saw it as an a unneeded hassle. I was just wondering how many potential buyers felt the same way and clicked to buy the same item from another seller not using managed payments.

[lacemaker3]

@slati_2013, there is a workaround that will allow you to use PayPal.

You can get a PayPal debit card (if you have a business account) or a PayPal cash card (I think that's what its called for personal accounts) and use that as the payment card for eBay.

Once you have input your card information, you can leave the box checked and eBay will remember it for future purchases. It's probably safer to uncheck the box and input the CC info each time, though.

Drawbacks -- you have to have enough balance in your PayPal account to cover the purchase, you can't use a credit card or bank account to fund the payment. And it will take a little while to set it up if you don't already have a PayPal card.

eBay sometimes offers a coupon for a few dollars off at checkout, if you buy a Managed Payments item. But of course, you have to use a credit or debit card. This appears to be an incentive they are offering to reduce the number of abandoned checkouts.

[gracieallen01]

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@lacemaker3 wrote:

@slati_2013, there is a workaround that will allow you to use PayPal.

You can get a PayPal debit card (if you have a business account) or a PayPal cash card (I think that's what its called for personal accounts) and use that as the payment card for eBay.

Once you have input your card information, you can leave the box checked and eBay will remember it for future purchases. It's probably safer to uncheck the box and input the CC info each time, though.

Drawbacks -- you have to have enough balance in your PayPal account to cover the purchase, you can't use a credit card or bank account to fund the payment. And it will take a little while to set it up if you don't already have a PayPal card.

eBay sometimes offers a coupon for a few dollars off at checkout, if you buy a Managed Payments item. But of course, you have to use a credit or debit card. This appears to be an incentive they are offering to reduce the number of abandoned checkouts.

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I used to think that ebay had a very large 'team' to figure out all of the workarounds that seem to be needed to keep ebay working.  Of course, they probably don't have any 'team' for it at all - the sellers will figure out, and spread the word about the workarounds.  Maybe that is why ebay wanted the sellers to help with things like the tutoring and catalogue.

Reducing the items abandoned at checkout would be a good reason to offer the coupons, however, there is a school of thought that the reason for the coupons is as an incentive to join managed payments of one's own 'free will', so to speak, rather than being tossed in when it becomes mandatory.

[atikovi]

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@slati_2013 wrote:

 I was just wondering how many potential buyers felt the same way and clicked to buy the same item from another seller not using managed payments.

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Most people tend to buy on lowest price, so assuming that this seller had just that, the 20 seconds it takes to pull out their credit card and enter the number wouldn't stop most people from continuing on with the purchase. The only thing that gets me to find another seller is if they charge sales tax.

[jakescameras]

This is not good! I don't like spreading my CC info around for starters. But also I use the PAYPAL reports to track and document  my sales expenses including  inventory  and supplies purchases for tax purposes. Now I have to keep another set of books. I will not buy from someone that does not offer PAYPAL.

[ohnojoey]

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@slati_2013 wrote:

So today I went to purchase an item I purchase regularly. When I tried to pay with my usual one click, it said the seller now used managed payments and wanted me to pay with a credit card. No Paypal. I simply hit the back button. I wonder how many sales the seller has lost using managed payments? Why no PayPal option? Ebay can't simply after all these years of insisting on PayPal now switch to credit cards with no PayPal option to wean us off PayPal.

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I would bet there are many lost sales for many sellers who opted into the beta "managed payments" until ebay can figure out how to add paypal again, which they claim will be added mid-2019.

[dtexley3]

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@jakescameras wrote:

This is not good! I don't like spreading my CC info around for starters. But also I use the PAYPAL reports to track and document  my sales expenses including  inventory  and supplies purchases for tax purposes. Now I have to keep another set of books. I will not buy from someone that does not offer PAYPAL.

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As other's have stated, get a free Paypal Debit or Cashcard, it's the quickest easiest solution. AND you get a cash back bonus from paypal for using it.  It's not a huge cash back bonus, but if you want to use your paypal funds, why not get a little back.  I'm just sad that I didn't get one sooner.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@slati_2013 wrote:

I have no problem with the new managed payments system. It is their site, they can use any payment system they want. I am just so used to buying stuff and just clicking "confirm and pay" that when I had to set up my credit card, laziness kicked in. I saw it as an a unneeded hassle. I was just wondering how many potential buyers felt the same way and clicked to buy the same item from another seller not using managed payments.

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I have no idea how many, but there have been reports of sellers receiving messages that say they want to cancel the transaction because they don't take Paypal, or that they will buy from another seller because they don't take Paypal.

Buyers may not notice that the seller is not flying the Paypal banner.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@jakescameras wrote:

This is not good! I don't like spreading my CC info around for starters. But also I use the PAYPAL reports to track and document  my sales expenses including  inventory  and supplies purchases for tax purposes. Now I have to keep another set of books. I will not buy from someone that does not offer PAYPAL.

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You are not alone in that concern as I have seen questions about how they will handle those reports.

[dtexley3]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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@jakescameras wrote:

This is not good! I don't like spreading my CC info around for starters. But also I use the PAYPAL reports to track and document  my sales expenses including  inventory  and supplies purchases for tax purposes. Now I have to keep another set of books. I will not buy from someone that does not offer PAYPAL.

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You are not alone in that concern as I have seen questions about how they will handle those reports.

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I sent such a message to Ebay shipping supplies (before I got the paypal debit) and their response was a gushing goo of the wonderful world of managed payments and how all the "problems" they had seen with coupons vanished like snow in summer once they switched.   Right, "problems" with coupons and Paypal.... hmmmm.

[div_style]

"The 3 most frightening words on eBay: Adyen is coming. "

No, not at all.  For sellers in MP, options for paying are CC or bank account (and others, now or later, including PayPal) that many already have associated with their eBay accounts.  When you go to checkout, you choose one of those.  Buyers and sellers will never see the word "Adyen" except here on the discussion boards.  Adyen is invisible to buyer and sellers, same as if you buy something at Walmart and many other places, either online or in person.  I am happy that Adyen will be managing payments becaue they are a million times more competent to do so than eBay is.  eBay's only part in this is to distribute payments to sellers.   Hopefully eBay will do that one little thing properly.