Need input on item title

[pvcliff]

I just listed a lunch tote with the following title:

Insulated Lunch Bag Sack Tote Light Blue Westwood (California) on Pocket

At the same time I'm paranoid that someone would expect to see the word California on the item since it's present in the title (figured most people don't know where Westwood is and that's why I added California in parentheses), I'd actually like to add the words Los Angeles and UCLA but then wondered if that might be considered key word spaming (UCLA is in the area of Los Angeles called Westwood).  As I type this now I'm remembering that UCLA uses light blue and gold on their athletic uniforms, so I'm even more inclined to want to mention the school.  So what do you think, take out the parentheses and any mention of the pocket in the title and use:

Insulated Lunch Bag Sack Tote Light Blue Westwood Los Angeles California UCLA

[slippinjimmy]

Westwood Village is the area of Los Angeles where UCLA is located, Westwood California is many miles away in the northeast corner of the State.

Unless you can identify the design on the bag and make a connection to something specific you can't even know if Westwood is a place, a company or a thing, it could be from L.A. or California or pretty much anywhere else where English is the predominate language.

I think it's more likely a company name, probably a grocery store somewhere, I have a somewhat similar bag sold by a local grocer (has the store name and a logo/design).

That's said if I lived in a place called Westwood and I liked the color I might buy it regardless of if it was from my town or another Westwood on the other side of the country.

[femmefan1946]

Leave California and UCLA off the title.

As stated, there are Westwoods all over the world. I grew up around the corner from Westwood Park off Westwood Avenue in Toronto Canada.

Put the UCLA connection and colours in the Description.

They will still pull up in a Search for UCLA but it won't put off a Searcher in Australia or Alberta or Alaska.

[coolections]

Agree with others. Just put Westwood lunch bag tote and call it a day. I see nothing special about it and doubt it has anything to do with California or UCLA.

[pvcliff]

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Agree with others. Just put Westwood lunch bag tote and call it a day. I see nothing special about it and doubt it has anything to do with California or UCLA.

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Other than that my sister lived in West LA a few freeway miles from campus!

[pvcliff]

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Westwood Village is the area of Los Angeles where UCLA is located, Westwood California is many miles away in the northeast corner of the State.

Unless you can identify the design on the bag and make a connection to something specific you can't even know if Westwood is a place, a company or a thing, it could be from L.A. or California or pretty much anywhere else where English is the predominate language.

I think it's more likely a company name, probably a grocery store somewhere, I have a somewhat similar bag sold by a local grocer (has the store name and a logo/design).

That's said if I lived in a place called Westwood and I liked the color I might buy it regardless of if it was from my town or another Westwood on the other side of the country.

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When I was at UCLA we refered to the area as Westwood or The Village, Westwood Village would have been third choice, I think. but thanks for noting that there is a Westwood in Northern CA, never knew that.

[mr_lincoln]

@pvcliff  Wow, that's a busy title ... almost like word spamming with bag, tote, sack ... also, good NOT to have any punctuation if at all possible.  Since you have a picture you could probably drop the "light blue" too.  Search apparently focuses on the first 80 characters (that would include spaces).  For the California I will often add an Item Specific titled City State and in the next little window put Westwood, CA ...

In trying to think like a buyer if I were searching for something like this I might type:  "insulated lunch bag" (over 44,000) and if I add the word "boys" it drops to just over 1,900 ... and if I change "boys" to "Westwod" it drops to .... wait for it .... 1!  YOURS!  Which may mean the title is too specific. 

[pvcliff]

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@pvcliff  Wow, that's a busy title ... almost like word spamming with bag, tote, sack ... also, good NOT to have any punctuation if at all possible.  Since you have a picture you could probably drop the "light blue" too.  Search apparently focuses on the first 80 characters (that would include spaces).  For the California I will often add an Item Specific titled City State and in the next little window put Westwood, CA ...

In trying to think like a buyer if I were searching for something like this I might type:  "insulated lunch bag" (over 44,000) and if I add the word "boys" it drops to just over 1,900 ... and if I change "boys" to "Westwod" it drops to .... wait for it .... 1!  YOURS!  Which may mean the title is too specific. 

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Interesting, I always use  synonym words like "bag, tote, sack" in a listing if there were different ways to refer to an item because one person's lunch bag is another's lunch sack.  I'm amazed that the search for "boys" brought mine up just because it was blue. Search is simply mind boggling. I listed a vintage folding knife last year with those words in the title could NEVER find my own knife with those words in search. In fact I couldn't find my knife with the exact title. Finally was sometimes, not always, able to find it with  some combination of my words -- I think taking the word vintage out of search and adding green since it was a green knife. Totally blew my mind.

[luckythewinner]

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almost like word spamming with bag, tote, sack .. 

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Nothing at all like spamming to me. IMHO using synonyms is a prudent and perfectly acceptable practice. 

[mr_lincoln]

@luckythewinner

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almost like word spamming with bag, tote, sack .. 

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Nothing at all like spamming to me. IMHO using synonyms is a prudent and perfectly acceptable practice. 

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Thank you, thanks, thnx, Danke, Domo, Merci, gracias ...

[mr_lincoln]

@pvcliff  Actually I changed the word "boys" to "Westwood" and THAT is when ONLY yours came up in search.