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My feelings on Immediate Payment Required

I mainly sell pins, but I do list and sometimes sell other items This makes it difficult for me to adhere to some of the things that  EBAY says a "great" seller should do as a way to avoid problems with the new Immediate Payment required .policy
1st free shipping. Yes I could add shipping and handling to each pin which would of course raise the price my customers have to pay for the pin. If I never sold multiple pins to customers or never had local customers pick up pins from me that would work great.
Of my sales over the last 30 days approximately 60% of my customers purchased multiple items from me. Therefore those customers would end up paying much more money for their items. As the majority of these items were pins I can ship between 5 to 8 pins for the price of shipping 1 pin. Therefore a customer who bought say 5 pins from me would end up paying over 7.00 or more for the pins they wanted.
Wonder how long before they would stop buying multiple pins from me and move on to other sellers who do not have free shipping and can combine and reduce the shipping and handling costs.
I also have approximately between 7% to 15% of items bought locally and picked up directly from me. Therefore if I had added the Free shipping into the item costs then it would of course cost them more than if they bought from a seller elsewhere who combined shipping and handling. How long will I keep these local customers who have bought from me over the years?
Immediate payment required is also a problem for a lot of the same reasons. If the cart works then of course they can put their items into the cart and ask for an invoice with the reduced combined shipping and handling but as we have all seen and heard on these boards the cart fails to work quite often so EBAY tells our customers they have to pay immediately.  So if they are prepared to do so they pay shipping and handling on multiple items, then I have to refund the excess shipping and handling charges. Of course EBAY does not refund the FVF on this refund.
 So EBAY says set up a combined automatic shipping and handling policy. That's great as long as they buy exactly the same weight items. But what about the customer who buys 3 pins and a maybe a belt buckle or a poster. How can I set it up to automatically combine the shipping and handling?
Also many of my customers buy Flat price or Buy it now items as well as auction items and pay for their items once per week. Therefore if their Flat price items or Buy it now items are setting in the cart and another person can come along and buy these items. Another great experience for the EBAY buyer.
How many customers have I and others lost because of EBAY'S new policy that requires immediate payment  on Buy It Now or Flat price items? We will never know. What is also scary is that I have heard that EBAY is trying to figure out how to force Immediate Payment required on Auctions. We must let EBAY know that Immediate Payment Required is not acceptable to us as sellers. Leave it as an option for those who want to use it. 
I know this rant is long but thanks to those of you who took the time to read it.
By the way I have called Customer service and have been unable to get beyond the person in Manila or where ever who says gee it is a glitch and no there is no supervisor who I can talk to. They have promised that someone from EBAY will call me but I have been waiting weeks for that call back.
Again we as sellers can just roll over and do nothing or we can keep trying to let them know how unacceptable Immediate Payment required is to us and hopefully they will roll it back and make it optional again.
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Immediate payment required is a choice not a requirement.

 

I do not use it on my listings, but for a different reason - buyers who need the 5 days to transfer money into paypal.

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The poster is referring to the immediate payment requirement that ebay has been putting on listings.

It is not a choice unless something has changed in the last couple of days.

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I think that most of us would prefer to make our own choices regarding immediate payment but right now that is the way they have it set up. Since pins are usually the item that you sell in multiples why don't you get up combined shipping for just the pins?

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@emerald40 wrote:

Immediate payment required is a choice not a requirement.

 

I do not use it on my listings, but for a different reason - buyers who need the 5 days to transfer money into paypal.


According to eBay, no longer. BINs under $1000 are now subject to immediate payment.  Or did it change yet again?

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I've never had Ebay make me do immediate payment in my listings. I just have it as an option every time I post something for sale. 

 

Are they only doing it for certain categories?

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Is there some place ebay is stating these new changes because there have been a lot of them lately.

 

And who keeps $1,000 in their paypal account just sitting there.  

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Just read a couple threads and according to other posters, a seller can disable that feature.

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No, it can't be disabled by the seller....not according to Trinton

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https://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/require-immediate-payment.html

 

How immediate payment works

Requiring immediate payment is useful if you're selling a time-sensitive item (for example, concert tickets), and you want to make sure the listing remains available until the transaction is successfully completed. To require immediate payment, you must meet certain requirements and the listing must include any related costs, so your buyer knows exactly how much to pay.

 

If you have an auction-style listing with a Buy It Now option, both the Buy It Now button and the immediate payment requirement disappear once a bid is placed (or, if you list with a reserve price, once your reserve price is met). In that case, the listing becomes a regular auction-style listing, with the item going to the highest bidder. For items priced below $1000 with a specified shipping cost and where PayPal is the only payment method offered, buyers who click Buy It Now are asked to pay immediately.

 

For all other items, if you list with a fixed price, you can require a buyer who clicks Buy It Now to pay you immediately using PayPal. If you require immediate payment, the item remains available for purchase until a buyer has completed a PayPal payment, or until the listing expires. The first buyer who clicks Buy It Now and completes their PayPal payment officially purchases your item. Once a buyer completes payment, the listing ends.

 

Immediate payment is automatically required on items priced below $1000, that have a specified shipping cost, and where PayPal is the only payment method offered.

 

This is the written policy....unwriten policies are that the cart won't work and your buyer may not be able to ask you for an invoice, among others

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@mcguire-hd wrote:

I've never had Ebay make me do immediate payment in my listings. I just have it as an option every time I post something for sale. 

 

Are they only doing it for certain categories?


They announced it a few years ago but have been slowly rolling it out. I think that now it affects most or all sellers. You don't sell to Canada so I can't tell but if you have someone click on buy it now and commit to buy comes up then you are not affected yet.  But if it goes directly to a payment screen then you are affected and buyers would have to use the cart or pay for one item at a time.

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This other day, I tested the IPR theory and found that I could add several items to the shopping cart and then request a revised invoice. The seller had no pre-set combo rules and all listings were fixed price.

Mind you, this was only a test of the shopping cart. I had not committed to buy anything and all items were still available for purchase by someone else.

Also, to the best of my knowledge, none of my own listings contain any IPR requirement.

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@pjcdn2005 wrote:

No, it can't be disabled by the seller....not according to Trinton


 

The ebay "automatic IPR" is easily disabled--the buyer need only click on Buy It Now and close the "pay now" window.

 

Just reporting what I have read on a few threads of the above statement of what other sellers are doing to get around it.

 

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@emerald40 wrote:

@pjcdn2005 wrote:

No, it can't be disabled by the seller....not according to Trinton


 

The ebay "automatic IPR" is easily disabled--the buyer need only click on Buy It Now and close the "pay now" window.

 

Just reporting what I have read on a few threads of the above statement of what other sellers are doing to get around it.

 


If you have been selected for eBays I PR test, you have no choice at all. I can bulk edit the setting, but due to the test it still applies. A seller I regularly buy from would provide combined shipping. He sent me the combined invoice and I was still forced to pay one at a time. Ask ymealord....stuck with the same problem. 

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@odditiesandantiquities1 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@pjcdn2005 wrote:

No, it can't be disabled by the seller....not according to Trinton


 

The ebay "automatic IPR" is easily disabled--the buyer need only click on Buy It Now and close the "pay now" window.

 

Just reporting what I have read on a few threads of the above statement of what other sellers are doing to get around it.

 


If you have been selected for eBays I PR test, you have no choice at all. I can bulk edit the setting, but due to the test it still applies. A seller I regularly buy from would provide combined shipping. He sent me the combined invoice and I was still forced to pay one at a time. Ask ymealord....stuck with the same problem. 


So the workaround that others are suggesting does not work after all.

 

I guess I am not in the test yet because I had no problem selling or buying and did not run into IPR.

 

 

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