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Item not received case won't let me select "Yes, I will provide tracking number" stuck on "no"

I seem to be encountering a bug with an item not received case and I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing the same thing? A buyer opened an INR case against me for a package that's been confirmed delivered to the address they provided, but when I try to update the tracking in the case it defaults to and stays locked on "No, I don't have a tracking number". It will not let me switch to  "Yes, I will provide tracking number".  I don't want to submit the number if it also submits the conflicting selection of not having a tracking number with it. I'm not sure it's even possible to submit the number because it won't let me select USPS as the carrier either. I'm experiencing this issue on both my computer (Windows) and phone app (Android).

 

I've always been able to add the number without issues in the past, so a bit concerning as I'm on the clock to respond. For clarification, do I even have to update the tracking on the case if the number is already listed on the order page? I was always told by support and other sellers to update it anyway, but I'm not sure if it's actually necessary.  

 

can't switch "no" to "yes"can't switch "no" to "yes"

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@mam98031 wrote:
"Received and ebay suddenly doesn't seem to know the tracking number even exists?"  This is NOT why the ability to enter a tracking number exists on an INR.  As I explained in my post above

Just click on those blue words and it will take you to my post.  The ability to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those sellers that had NOT previously had it entered into Ebay for whatever reason they may have.


kyle@ebay: I think the reason that this question arises (over and over) is because the dispute form does ask for the tracking number to be added, with no further explanation and with no acknowledgement that the tracking number may already be plainly visible in the original shipping details.

 

Why it's asking for the number all over again does not make a lot of sense, and having a coding bug currently present that prevents the seller from uploading the number at all is simply adding insult to injury.

 

It would alleviate a lot of the distress if the tracking number was automatically brought into the dispute form along with all the other details already there, such as the item number, etc.

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@mam98031 wrote:

@tabcu51 wrote:

Seems rather ridiculous, a seller having purchased the label itself on ebay... Ebay provides the buyer with the tracking number in the order details... So an item gets delivered, the tracking confirms this yet the buyer can open a case of Item Not Received and ebay suddenly doesn't seem to know the tracking number even exists?

 


@tabcu51 

Tracking can show delivered yet the carrier made a mistake and did not deliver it to the addressee.  Or the seller may have made a mistake on the address and it shows delivered but not to the person that actually paid for the item.  And there are scams out there where a tracking number gets uploaded to a particular transaction, the seller ships a lighter something to some other address in the same zip code as the buyer, so the tracking shows delivered but the buyer has nothing.

 

There are real reasons for the ability to file an INR when the tracking shows delivered.  

 

"Received and ebay suddenly doesn't seem to know the tracking number even exists?"  This is NOT why the ability to enter a tracking number exists on an INR.  As I explained in my post above

Just click on those blue words and it will take you to my post.  The ability to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those sellers that had NOT previously had it entered into Ebay for whatever reason they may have.

 


Please, stop.

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Item not received case won't let me select "Yes, I will provide tracking number" stuck on "no"

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?

 

Ebay knows the tracking number exists if the seller had it previously uploaded to the transaction before the INR was opened.  The option to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those that have not yet uploaded the tracking to the transaction for whatever reason the seller may have.  Ebay doesn't explain this on screen, but that is how it works.  They should do a better job explaining this to members.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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Good news. The issue seems to have been resolved in the last hour or so. I was able to select "yes" and add the tracking number just now. Also able to select carrier after adding the number and submit. This thread can now be marked resolved and closed. Thank you all. 

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@a_c_green wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:
"Received and ebay suddenly doesn't seem to know the tracking number even exists?"  This is NOT why the ability to enter a tracking number exists on an INR.  As I explained in my post above

Just click on those blue words and it will take you to my post.  The ability to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those sellers that had NOT previously had it entered into Ebay for whatever reason they may have.


kyle@ebay: I think the reason that this question arises (over and over) is because the dispute form does ask for the tracking number to be added, with no further explanation and with no acknowledgement that the tracking number may already be plainly visible in the original shipping details.

 

Why it's asking for the number all over again does not make a lot of sense, and having a coding bug currently present that prevents the seller from uploading the number at all is simply adding insult to injury.

 

It would alleviate a lot of the distress if the tracking number was automatically brought into the dispute form along with all the other details already there, such as the item number, etc.


I think it would work best if when a buyer wants to open an INR and the tracking already shows delivered that ebay would send the buyer to a page where it is clearly explained that the tracking shows delivery, instead of even allowing the buyer to open a case to begin with.

I am probably delusional for thinking that thou.

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@mam98031 wrote:

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?


 

Yes WHY because if I am the seller and I enter the tracking number into the case it will close in my favor!

And no it doesn't matter if the buyer actually has the item or not, all ebay cares about is the tracking shows delivered!

Therefore it is a waste of buyer time to even allow them to open such a case, not to mention it's a jerk move really, to allow a buyer to open an INR case where the tracking shows delivered knowing full well it will close in the seller's favor after the seller enters the tracking number.

 

This is in fact detrimental to buyer retention because it's disappointing and infuriating to be led around in circles just to have the door closed in your face again and again, take it from a buyer's perspective.

 

Are you that uninformed or inexperienced?

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@mam98031 wrote:

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?

 

Ebay knows the tracking number exists if the seller had it previously uploaded to the transaction before the INR was opened.  The option to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those that have not yet uploaded the tracking to the transaction for whatever reason the seller may have.  Ebay doesn't explain this on screen, but that is how it works.  They should do a better job explaining this to members.


Hahaha NO!

It happens even if you buy the label through Ebay!

Ebay clearly has the tracking number when I purchase my labels through ebay!

Like I said, they provide it to the buyer in the order details!
Yes I said that!

omg, reading comprehension.

 

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Item not received case won't let me select "Yes, I will provide tracking number" stuck on "no"

paying for QA... appearantly... XD. jk, while making changes to specific code, there's a lot of unintended consequences that could be pushed through with each iteration that are not necessarily obvious when looking at the changes to said code until someone actually runs into the specific issue. Depends on how clean the source was developed and stacked upon. Could have just gotten overlooked in test case submissions, being that it's not exactly a core function of the site (though it is important obviously). The whole section of this seems redundant though if they already have access to that data....

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Item not received case won't let me select "Yes, I will provide tracking number" stuck on "no"

I wouldn't say it's completely useless as I opened one up a while back regarding a delivery. It wasn't because a package never showed up, but due to the fact that there was nothing in said package. Probably should have been classified as an item not as described, but I didn't actually receive an item to begin with just an empty package. Tracking was updated, but I was able to prove that I received nothing and was refunded for the missing item. In this instance, I couldn't very well return the item or anything as there was nothing to return. Appealing the tracking information was useful in my situation. Seller kept the money I originally paid, but I at least got refunded for my purchase.

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@tabcu51 wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?


 

Yes WHY because if I am the seller and I enter the tracking number into the case it will close in my favor!

And no it doesn't matter if the buyer actually has the item or not, all ebay cares about is the tracking shows delivered!

Therefore it is a waste of buyer time to even allow them to open such a case, not to mention it's a jerk move really, to allow a buyer to open an INR case where the tracking shows delivered knowing full well it will close in the seller's favor after the seller enters the tracking number.

 

This is in fact detrimental to buyer retention because it's disappointing and infuriating to be led around in circles just to have the door closed in your face again and again, take it from a buyer's perspective.

 

Are you that uninformed or inexperienced?


You feel that the type of transaction you had is the only type of transaction?  It is allowed for the vary reasons I previously stated.

 

Yes, the INR will likely close in your favor and post of the time that is exactly as it should be.  However there are times when it isn't correct whether it was the carrier that made a mistake or it was a seller that was behaving badly.

 

More experience as a buyer and as a seller will help you to understand that there are many ways a transaction can go.  But you are correct, most of the time the INR is won by the seller if the tracking shows delivered.

 

However I bought something from a seller on this site.  They were a seller acting badly.  They entered a tracking number on my order that was NOT used to ship what I ordered to me but it was a lighter package shipped to someone else in my zip code.  So when I filed my INR, the tracking did show as I received it.  I however went out and collected the correct info.  Where the package was delivered and the weight of the packages vs the weight of what I purchased.  The seller did NOT win that case, I did as the buyer.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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@tabcu51 wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?

 

Ebay knows the tracking number exists if the seller had it previously uploaded to the transaction before the INR was opened.  The option to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those that have not yet uploaded the tracking to the transaction for whatever reason the seller may have.  Ebay doesn't explain this on screen, but that is how it works.  They should do a better job explaining this to members.


Hahaha NO!

It happens even if you buy the label through Ebay!

Ebay clearly has the tracking number when I purchase my labels through ebay!

Like I said, they provide it to the buyer in the order details!
Yes I said that!

omg, reading comprehension.

 


I don't know why you have a need to be insulting.  It simply isn't necessary.  We are all here just trying to help.  If you feel you know everything, why post or ask anything.

 

kyle@ebay 

 

I've explained a couple times on this thread that sellers are NOT required to enter the tracking number into the INR if they already had it uploaded into the system prior to the buyer opening the INR.  Would you please confirm or deny this.  Thank you in advance.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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Glad you got it worked out.

Zero To Sixty In Five - Pablo Cruise
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@mam98031 wrote:

@tabcu51 wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

Please stop what?  Telling you why Ebay allows buyers to open a case after there is a delivery confirmation on the tracking?

 

Ebay knows the tracking number exists if the seller had it previously uploaded to the transaction before the INR was opened.  The option to enter a tracking number on an INR is for those that have not yet uploaded the tracking to the transaction for whatever reason the seller may have.  Ebay doesn't explain this on screen, but that is how it works.  They should do a better job explaining this to members.


Hahaha NO!

It happens even if you buy the label through Ebay!

Ebay clearly has the tracking number when I purchase my labels through ebay!

Like I said, they provide it to the buyer in the order details!
Yes I said that!

omg, reading comprehension.

 


I don't know why you have a need to be insulting.  It simply isn't necessary.  We are all here just trying to help.  If you feel you know everything, why post or ask anything.

 

kyle@ebay 

 

I've explained a couple times on this thread that sellers are NOT required to enter the tracking number into the INR if they already had it uploaded into the system prior to the buyer opening the INR.  Would you please confirm or deny this.  Thank you in advance.


Hey @mam98031 that is correct!  You're certainly not required to enter in the tracking info to a case if you uploaded it to the order.  

 

That being said, I personally take it as an opportunity to quickly double check the tracking, ensure it was delivered to the right zip code, and reassure my customer that the item was sent to their address and delivered on X-date, and encourage them to check with others in the household, neighbors, or even just in unusual places for a package to be delivered (back door, garage, etc..). 

 

Again, to be clear, none of that is required at all.  This is simply my recommendation in the name of providing great service, to take a minute or two to do those extra things.

Kyle,
eBay
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kyle@ebay wrote:


You're certainly not required to enter in the tracking info to a case if you uploaded it to the order.  


Hey kyle@ebay. Previous reps have said you're not required to add tracking, but you are required to respond to the INR in some way. Is that still accurate as of today?

 

If someone doesn't upload tracking, the other option for responding is to send a message through the claim.

 

So you have to respond and that can be done in the form of adding tracking or sending a message through the case (not to be confused with sending a message through the eBay message system).

 

Personal experience: whenever I click the button to add tracking on an INR, it prefills the tracking number already tied to the order and all I have to do is click submit. Unless something changed recently, it's a really fast process.

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@wastingtime101 

@tabcu51 

@mam98031 

 

Just an FYI; I just got an INR two weeks ago and in the message from eBay it stated:

 

"don't worry, you've got seller protection; we have the information and will pass it to the buyer"

(paraphrasing). 

 

So, in this case, I didn't even have to 'respond' and there was nowhere to even respond to. 

(of course I checked the tracking and it said 'delivered' over a week ago prior). 

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