Is having items still listed in "Sold" negatively effecting your sales?

[1-of-1memorabilia]

I want to know if anyone else is flipping items they have bought, ok everyone.  If you try to sell what you have bought on eBay you can't get a higher price unless you paid very low and good luck getting what it actually worth because everyone can see what you paid.  You are paying more for everything, but buyers are not going to pay you more as this system is a race to the bottom.  

The cost of cards have gone up Grading too, but you can get a card that has been graded for less then grading cost.  Why is that?  Because everyone can see exactly what you paid.  Have an average or just a general price range, but the exact item makes it so you can never make any money unless the player becomes and all star and you luck out.

With the system the way it try to sell to a card shop or to anyone at a show.  You will get a buyer looking on their phone and then saying you paid $xx I will give you $x (less) and you can keep the card and wait, and wait, and wait, or take the loss and hope to make it up later.  

This is wrong and we as sellers are the life blood of eBay.  They have no product you are the product and you do all of the work.  You should get more for your time and efforts.  We don't do this for free or just for fun.  And even if you do, isn't your time worth something?  You looked up each item, did the research and paid you hard earned money, plus fees and taxes, and someone can look and see what you paid, minus fees and taxes and offer you less.  That should make you mad.  Those doing this fulltime or for income should be livid and see how this is costing you time and more importantly money, or money and more importantly time, as it all fleeting.    

I am not trying to rip people off and informed consumer is the best, but if I buy a card with Gold in it with a spot price of $1980 and I can't get 2k for it something's wrong.

Happy to hear your thoughts and if you have a solution.

Cheers,

1of1Memorabilia 

[mam98031]

Easy thing to resolve.  Use a separate account to buy items on Ebay that you intend on selling on Ebay.  Simple fix.

It is my experience that sellers that buy on Ebay to resell on Ebay are usually buying multiple items in one listing.  Wholesale lots.  Not full priced single items.  Unless you find something that is significantly under priced.

Seems you just need to source your inventory smarter.  Do some research and see where else you can get the stuff you want to sell.

[chapeau-noir]

Am I hallucinating or have I actually seen this post before?

[vintagecraze50]

Have a buying account and a selling account.

[powell-memorabilia]

Your basic argument is that you should be able to flip eBay items on eBay.  No argument there - a lot of us have done it.  But it shouldn’t be easy money.

Plenty of buyers on eBay.  Something goes up for sale, gets a bunch of views, then sells for $x.  That $x is now the established market price.  You then list that same item for more than that established market price.  Does  it not make sense that you’d have trouble selling that item for more than the established market price?

[1-of-1memorabilia]

No sir, you're incorrect. That becomes the established high, not the established price. The established price then becomes lower than that for everyone else. Because of the pricing data that's available. You will never get that higher price again unless it's a one of one and then you'll get less than you got for sale because everyone can see what you paid

[1-of-1memorabilia]

Everyone needs to go back and look at the original question. All's I'm asking is if it's affecting you I don't need you to critique what I'm doing or give me advice or tell me that I'm wrong.

Is it affecting you? Yes or no if no move on. If yes, you want to explain how great. Maybe others can have that advice or maybe eBay can make changes in policy to help us. But I don't need to hear what I'm doing is wrong or my thoughts are wrong. Didn't ask for that help and honestly don't care to hear it. Thanks!

[fern*wood]

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@1-of-1memorabilia wrote:

No sir, you're incorrect. That becomes the established high, not the established price. The established price then becomes lower than that for everyone else. Because of the pricing data that's available. You will never get that higher price again unless it's a one of one and then you'll get less than you got for sale because everyone can see what you paid

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I don't believe most people think like this.    Sold listings are a big help when trying to determine what to ask for items.  It depends on the item and the scarcity of the item as to whether an item may sell for more than one in the past.   Sold items also do not show the winner buyer's ID.  If someone bothers trying to trace back items you have bought---then open a buying ID separate from the one you sell on.   

[1-of-1memorabilia]

Here's a prime example of how you're established. Value does not hold water. Let's take a signed.X by player X. Current established value is $1,000. Someone gets assigned x by player. X in sells it for $250 now they establish value is $250 with others that have sold higher because I can look on sales on eBay for sign merchandise by player. X I can see that the lowest price was $250. I now have an established price of $250. Although 2 days ago the established price was $1,000. Now do you see my point?

[monica-sells]

Sometimes, that "established" or "most recent" price is above your expectation. That's when you list it. I have bought many items and sat on them for months/years, anticipating an increase. 

When I see an item I have stashed, or can acquire that has 30 bids and a much higher price than I thought, it's time to list it.....

So, to answer your question...I think it beneficial and helps support and increase my selling prices

[fern*wood]

This is a discussion board...not a parrot what I say or move along board. 

[monica-sells]

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@1-of-1memorabilia wrote:

Here's a prime example of how you're established. Value does not hold water. Let's take a signed.X by player X. Current established value is $1,000. Someone gets assigned x by player. X in sells it for $250 now they establish value is $250 with others that have sold higher because I can look on sales on eBay for sign merchandise by player. X I can see that the lowest price was $250. I now have an established price of $250. Although 2 days ago the established price was $1,000. Now do you see my point?

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Nope...I do not....1 sale does not establish a price.....there are too many other factors....

did you look further at that sale as to why? or just take it at face value.....

[tobaccocardyahoo]

Sales history on Ebay often distorts the value of items, particularly the value if you are attempting to sell the item on Ebay.

There is no deficit of sellers who p*ss in the soup, allowing their items to sell for a fraction of what an interested collector would pay for the item, and for truly rare items the price they sell at becomes the value.

Multiple venues help reduce the problem, and relationships with collectors can too.

It has always been a problem, and it is hard to shake because Worthpoint displays data for sales which occurred years ago.

You have to take the bad with the good, and sellers who buy on Ebay for resale on Ebay had better have some value added.

Many of my auction sales are ungraded cards which are bought by resellers which they send to PSA for grading and resell. That is value added.

[toomuchstuffagain35]

ebay only shows 'sold' prices for up to 90 days.

Just sit on what you bought until the solds drop off, that's IF, as you're trying to say, your item is easily identifiable. 

Even if it is, you'd be better off using a buying ID and a selling ID. Or buy as a guest account.

[mam98031]

I think you may hold too much emphasis on what you are calling "established value or price".  Most buyers don't go and look at what an item has sold for in the past.  Sure some do, but it is unlikely to be most buyers.  Most are just looking for a price that works for them.