I get the policy but why was my item removed yet there are 100s more with the same wording...

[buddistuff]

I really don't understand!! I got a 'violation" for listing a jar top only of the pancake lady (I don't dare say who) how ridiculous!! I never thought this violated any policy!!  The thing that gets me in addition to what a dumb policy this is, is that there are TONS of listings for "A.M" yet they are fine and allowed.  eBay if you're going to enforce the rules, you should enforce them for everyone. If there are "too many' listings to do that then you need to speak to your IT department about the way you "search" for these listings because it's half A***ed!!!   Some get to stay and others are removed?  So glad I'm paying all the high fees.

I'm so ticked. Wonder if I can list that on Facebook Marketplace or are there the same dictators over there? Anyone know?  Thanks.

[evry1nositswindy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Green

Sad that she was buried in a pauper's grave.

If you want to know if Mammy is an offensive term, just watch The Jefferson's and see Mother Jefferson go off on Archie Bunker for calling her Mammy instead of George's Mom.  Love that lady--what a spitfire!!  

[sextons-sweet-deals]

You just cut and pasted your comment off the internet!

[maxine*j]

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@evry1nositswindy wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Green

Sad that she was buried in a pauper's grave.

If you want to know if Mammy is an offensive term, just watch The Jefferson's and see Mother Jefferson go off on Archie Bunker for calling her Mammy instead of George's Mom.  Love that lady--what a spitfire!!  

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But if you want to see that there were other interpretations of the word... Noble Lee Sissle (1889 – 1975), singer and playwright, musical composer and lyricist, bandleader and stage performer, the man who created and staged the first Broadway musical revue written by and about African Americans -- in short, one of the most influential African Americans in music -- said of Al Jolson, that that Jewish mensch who sang "Mammy" in blackface: "He was always the champion of the Negro songwriter and performer, and was first to put Negroes in his shows... [Jolson sang "Mammy"] "with real tears streaming down his blackened face, and he immortalized the Negro motherhood of America as no other individual could."

It's a complicated business, this being human, each of a member of more than one group, watching things change and accepting those changes without bringing calumny down on the heads of those who went before us, understanding that intelligent and earnest people of goodwill can look at the same event or fact and draw different conclusions from it, trying to avoid falling into the trap of sanctimony.

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[house*of*paws · Accepted solution]

>>   ... I never tried to offend anyone and didn't give the rest of it much thought, honestly,  ... <<  

@buddistuff 

I believe you. 

I don't think anyone accused you of deliberately wanting to offend anyone.  I think the strong reaction your post received was because you originally referred to the ban on Aunt Jemima products as 'ridiculous' and 'dumb' ... so people tried to explain to you why the ban was in place.

The removal of your item wasn't 'personal'.  Someone familiar with the ban probably reported the listing ... and an eBay employee dutifully removed it.  [All of the other listings you see for similar items likely will be removed as well once reported.]

If you would like to see this entire thread deleted ... you can click on the 'circle with a v' in upper-right corner of your original post, and choose 'Report inappropriate content'.  In the textbox ... tell the moderator that you are the 'Original Poster' and you would like to have the entire thread removed.  I think they will do that for you.  Good luck!

[lightlily_arts]

eBay makes the rules here.  Yet, there will be those items that slip as it's difficult to find all listings that are prohibited among the millions of listings.  There will always going to be people who find things that are offensive to them.   I feel fortunate that I purchased my Black Americana ceramics and memorabilia well before they were all banned last year.  That George Floyd nonsense is what started all the Black Americana prohibitions last year.  It wasn't just black Americana either as some Dr. Seuss books were banned as well.  Some day it may change, but not anytime in the near future.  Just because you are a collector of black Americana it doesn't make you a racist.

[lightlily_arts]

I wouldn't worry about it as there are plenty of sellers who aren't aware of every item or word that is prohibited on eBay's site.  Even eBay's policies can be vague.  What can be problematic is that even eBay's employees don't know the policies.  A few years ago I had a listing for a decorated Ostrich Egg pulled and it took over a month of fighting with them to prove they were wrong.    You'll find that you'll have the same issues with Facebook.  I had problems trying to sell a Barbie doll there and had my listing pulled.  Unfortunately Facebook won't even explain why  a listing violates their policy because they won't explain what was the problem.

[lightlily_arts]

I wouldn't delete this thread as it's likely to be helpful to someone else asking the same question.  How many sellers have actually read all of eBay's policies for prohibited or restricted items?

[moondogblues]

"People do collect some of the weirdest stuff..."

Seriously...I met someone years ago, about twenty years ago...who collected tanks.  Not little toy tanks but the real deal.  He of course had property and money.  I think about him from time to time...

[moondogblues]

"That George Floyd nonsense ....?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????"

WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????

[eleanor*rigby]

@sextons-sweet-deals wrote:

You just cut and pasted your comment off the internet!

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Uh, yeah . . . except they're screenshots. People throughout this thread have copy/pasted from the internet. Have you posted the same response to them? Or just me?

[buddistuff]

did i copy and paste or someone else? If it was me, i apologize.

[toooldtorock]

"Then I guess image is everything..real or not..Aunt Jemima was a slave image"

Nancy Greene was the first to portray Aunt Jemima. Nancy Greene herself was a slave

but she did enjoy her job and the character she portrayed.

I realize most women would cook breakfast wearing pearls and heels. Maybe in an

evening gown in higher income neighborhoods.

Most women do not dress up for the day's work and their outfits were pretty plain.

No reason for a black woman to get all gussied up to make breakfast. Jemima's

outfit reflect the day wear of the time and it went beyond the slave era.

[bonjourami]

Did she also enjoy being a slave?

[toooldtorock]

 "Get out of their lily white worlds"

All those other people had to come to the lily white world in order to be able to eat.

I have never met a black that had anxiety attacks over Aunt Jemima. Some even collect

some of these sort of items.

[bonjourami]

"I have never met a black that had anxiety attacks over Aunt Jemima. Some even collect

some of these sort of items."

Wrong.