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How to ship without tracking number, I always get scammed.

The reason I would ship without a tracking number is because I would send by stamped letter. This is the only way to compete with prices. This works well, until the buyer has gotten the item. Then they make a claim against me. I do  not know how people are able to sell their items and make a profit when all I get is claims.

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I sell some seeds and I was shipping them by regular mail, no tracking, until I noticed Ebay was counting the no tracking against me. I started shipping them first class and they still sell.

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The only thing it counts against is being able to become a Top Rated Seller. So, yes, since you're a TRS, it will affect that. However, if TRS doesn't matter then it's a viable way of shipping. I don't use tracking at all on this account. Don't really care about being TRS.
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Sadly, there are buyers who will take advantage of the fact that the item was shipped without tracking.  Integrity is not their by word.

 

So possibly you could raise the price of your items to pay for tracking.

 

Or roll the tracking and ship cost into the item price and call it free shipping.

 

You need to do something for your own protection.

 

Good Luck.

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@titaniumnotes wrote:

The reason I would ship without a tracking number is because I would send by stamped letter. This is the only way to compete with prices. This works well, until the buyer has gotten the item. Then they make a claim against me. I do  not know how people are able to sell their items and make a profit when all I get is claims.


If you always get scammed then you are obviously making zero money. All you can do is start getting tracking. What do you sale that you always get scammed ? I have shipped many items without tracking and have never been scammed.

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@cupidsandcherubs3

Why would you want to wait until after someone says they did not get the item to show tracking. That is one thing that attracts scammers and the reason why the OP is getting scammed. If you have tracking don't play games and put the tracking info into the system. Also what you think is scammers could be people who complained of no receipt, messaged you, then it arrived that day. Many buyers are impatient and you will avoid many issues you are having by doing the right thing.

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@maddog92_2008 wrote:

You can not prove item arrived but if you ship from PO video the package being handed to PO.


Videos mean nothing on Ebay so OP you can forget that advice.

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@coolections wrote:

@maddog92_2008 wrote:

You can not prove item arrived but if you ship from PO video the package being handed to PO.


Videos mean nothing on Ebay so OP you can forget that advice.


Not to mention, you have to prove delivery, so even if eBay did look at a video, it wouldn't prove anything at all.

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@titaniumnotes wrote:

I don't know how sellers are able to do it, they are able to sell items for just $1.00 dollar and offer free shipping. For example, baseball cards. Certainly they are getting scammed?

 

Well I will take the advice, if I am unable to complete in pricing becaues of shipping, then I will have to look for something else.

 

Oh by the way, want I wanted to sell was seeds. Almost all the seeds I see posted on eBay have envolope shipping.


Seeds aren't likely to attract many bogus INR claims without tracking #.  They are going to be problematic to send in envelopes though, because they'll shift and create a small thick lump that will jam in letter handling equipment, possibly tear open the envelope, and the letter handling equipment may crack / split them, making them not grow - unless they're really small seeds, and you only ship a few of them per package. 

 

Sports trading cards are a different buyer demographic, you'll see a higher rate of bogus INR claims with those.   Clearly not enough to eat all the profits though, otherwise those sellers wouldn't be doing it.  Also, the letter handling equipment may cause small ripples (creases) in the card from bending.  This will irk the buyer on these condition sensitive items.  It is entirely possible some of those buyers will file INR, since that gets an instant refund with no further effort or cost, while filing the correct claim (SNAD, due to damage) will mean mailing the card back to you.

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Tagging on to the end of the thread .....

 

 

Topic may still be relevant but many of you are responding to posts from January. 


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@ted_200 wrote:

@titaniumnotes wrote:

I don't know how sellers are able to do it, they are able to sell items for just $1.00 dollar and offer free shipping. For example, baseball cards. Certainly they are getting scammed?

 

Well I will take the advice, if I am unable to complete in pricing becaues of shipping, then I will have to look for something else.

 

Oh by the way, want I wanted to sell was seeds. Almost all the seeds I see posted on eBay have envolope shipping.


Seeds aren't likely to attract many bogus INR claims without tracking #.  They are going to be problematic to send in envelopes though, because they'll shift and create a small thick lump that will jam in letter handling equipment, possibly tear open the envelope, and the letter handling equipment may crack / split them, making them not grow - unless they're really small seeds, and you only ship a few of them per package. 

 

Sports trading cards are a different buyer demographic, you'll see a higher rate of bogus INR claims with those.   Clearly not enough to eat all the profits though, otherwise those sellers wouldn't be doing it.  Also, the letter handling equipment may cause small ripples (creases) in the card from bending.  This will irk the buyer on these condition sensitive items.  It is entirely possible some of those buyers will file INR, since that gets an instant refund with no further effort or cost, while filing the correct claim (SNAD, due to damage) will mean mailing the card back to you.


You can make them rigid and pay 21 cents more to make them non-machinable. That's what I do on my CDs so they aren't put through the machines. I also buy big red stickers that say "do not bend" and put on every package. When I first started selling this way, I didn't do that and a few of my shipments broke. Since I started doing it this way, I haven't had one break.

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SHIPPING WITH TRACKING DOES NOT MATTER IN A DISPUTE!  I always buy tracking and still have plenty of buyers claim non-reciept though tracking shows delivered.  EBay rarely sides with sellers and Amazon never does, and do not seem to care about dishonest buyers.  Even if u win the dispute u run the risk of getting bad reviews, and good luck getting dishonest reviews removed.  The only thing; if shipping without tracking hurts your seller status, eBay's SEO algorithm will ID it and not give your listings good rankings.  If your items are cheap and shipping without tracking allows u to be compeditive, do it...many many others do!  When buyers are dishonest, eBay will most likely not have your back, and its never worth spending hours on the phone.  eBay but Amazon much moreso need to have far better fraud support!  Amazon for example simply does not have seller support...they mask it with a broken-wheel tactic helpless overseas team.  eBay does better but not near good enough for what they take (12-18% fees)!

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Try out LetterTrackPro

https://www.lettertrackpro.com/register.asp

I haven’t used it for a while but I believe
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