12-08-2017 11:44 AM
Hey Sellers,
I have been working a lot of you to enable your export business and a common theme I have found is that many do not know how to use our platform to list international shipping to specific countries outside of the usual listing flow for example Poland or Malaysia. Below is a step by step guide on how to list your items using rate tables and shipping policies to countries not outlined in the listing flow:
Note: You need to list your item before adding international shipping with the steps below
Apply International Shipping Rate Table
12-08-2017 10:31 PM
12-09-2017 07:08 AM - edited 12-09-2017 07:09 AM
@bassileid5 Thanks for that but a few items that would be helpful are:
1. What products are you refering to for that international shipping post?
2. Are you basically suggesting to ship to every country in the world?
3. I think what would be a good service to New Sellers is to have the Excluded areas you ship to in Site Preferences - Shipping Preferences set to NO INTERNATIONAL shipping until they gain some experience.
The whole process to turn countries on and off with the combination of Site Preferences and the Listing Tool International shipping settings is poor and not explained anywhere convenient. I got caught as a new Seller with two international sales even though I had No International shipping set on the Listing Tool when the items were created ... for whatever reason the Site Preferences were set to ship to the world. I lost money on both sales and in addition to that I got a brow beating from a Buyer in the Philipines who I recognized knew a whole lot more about how eBay worked than I did.
Anyway, I do very little international shipping and right now AND only on certain items under 4 lbs so I can use USPS First Class International Package and the Delcon electronic delivery confirmation AND only to certain countries ... if I can't track it I don't ship it and that is the advice eBay should be giving to ... every .... single .... Seller.
12-09-2017 07:16 AM
Any ideas on how to prevent international fraud? Like the bit about leaving an item at Customs until after an INR is claim is refunded, then going to pick up the item?
Or maybe how to block people in countries you don't ship to from seeing your listings?
12-09-2017 07:22 AM
@bassileid5 wrote:
Two-thirds of the world’s purchasing power is outside the United States. That’s 790 million international customers who are potential new customers for US retailers. Where the US once held ecommerce supremacy, by 2020 its stake is expected to be 16.9% (down from 22.2% in 2015). As a result, the lion’s share of global ecommerce sales in particular (84%) now resides outside of Western continents like North America.
People don't care about that. They care about the dramatically increased risks of fraud and the high complications involved in resolutions. If you stay domestic only, you have a much better chance of getting a resolution through police or the courts if necessary. That becomes nearly impossible once the package leaves the country, even if only to Canada.
12-09-2017 08:03 AM
@mr_lincoln wrote:@bassileid5 Thanks for that but a few items that would be helpful are:
1. What products are you refering to for that international shipping post?
2. Are you basically suggesting to ship to every country in the world?
3. I think what would be a good service to New Sellers is to have the Excluded areas you ship to in Site Preferences - Shipping Preferences set to NO INTERNATIONAL shipping until they gain some experience.
The whole process to turn countries on and off with the combination of Site Preferences and the Listing Tool International shipping settings is poor and not explained anywhere convenient. I got caught as a new Seller with two international sales even though I had No International shipping set on the Listing Tool when the items were created ... for whatever reason the Site Preferences were set to ship to the world. I lost money on both sales and in addition to that I got a brow beating from a Buyer in the Philipines who I recognized knew a whole lot more about how eBay worked than I did.
Anyway, I do very little international shipping and right now AND only on certain items under 4 lbs so I can use USPS First Class International Package and the Delcon electronic delivery confirmation AND only to certain countries ... if I can't track it I don't ship it and that is the advice eBay should be giving to ... every .... single .... Seller.
Agreed. And I'd even go as far as saying it's probably a good idea to block France and Italy even though they are on the E-Delcon list. Both are notorious for delays and "loss" once packages get to customs.
I'm not one to invite problems to an already crowded party.
12-09-2017 09:06 AM
"Two-thirds of the world’s purchasing power is outside the United States. That’s 790 million international customers who are potential new customers for US retailers."
168 million active users and I can't even get one or two sales a day here on Ebay. Is this why I should list internationally?
12-09-2017 09:14 AM
@enzo7117 wrote:
Is this why I should list internationally?
This is why they should DE-focus on international and essentially create two independent marketplaces. One for North America and one for 'other'. Let sellers choose their market and get better exposure to their chosen audience.
12-09-2017 10:11 AM
way to much blah blah blah to read the whle post...
so, my question... does it say how much paypig is going to charge a seller for all the add on fees they charge for international sales?
12-09-2017 10:30 AM
@tellmemamawrote:
And I'd even go as far as saying it's probably a good idea to block France and Italy even though they are on the E-Delcon list. Both are notorious for delays and "loss" once packages get to customs.
I'm not one to invite problems to an already crowded party.
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LOL! The two international sales I received since opening up to the UK were to France and Italy!!! Was completely miffed as to why it took WEEKS after landing on the European continent to be delivered ... followed tracking, messaged Buyers & thanked them for their patience, etc. Italy was the worse ... Buyer laughed and said its normal and they should see the package in a few weeks (WEEKS! they said!) ... un --- beeee --- leave ---- a ---- ble.
12-09-2017 11:51 AM
@chrysylys wrote:
@enzo7117 wrote:
Is this why I should list internationally?
This is why they should DE-focus on international and essentially create two independent marketplaces. One for North America and one for 'other'. Let sellers choose their market and get better exposure to their chosen audience.
Well, I'll offer some general observations, while still saying the OP is useful since figuring out how to hybrid GSP with direct international shipping and still block certain countries is not easy to figure out.
As to whether shipping international is "worth it". It depends on what demand for your item is overseas. It also depends on whether you want it to sell faster (Fixed Price) or you want it to sell for a higher price (Auction).
I see lots of complaining about the risk. I don't see any difference. If your buyer is intent on getting your item for free, they're going to succeed whether they're in Timbuktu or Detroit. Some postal systems are really risky (India, Mexico), but plenty of overseas are as reliable or more reliable than USPS. For example, I won't ship to Russia, but there are a few items that will do really well there, I'd make more money if I used GSP and shipped there, but the GSP is less than ideal and I don't want the headaches or neg.s from them repackaging stuff or fighting about whether they broke it or it was broke when I sent it.
And I don't see tracking as having a lot of protection, tracked packages just require a different tactic to get "IT" for free.
The biggest problem with selling international is shipping costs are just ridiculous from the U.S., and GSP isn't really much help on that count. For a $20 ASP item, shipping cost pretty much rules out any international interest, and I pretty much avoid selling $200 ASP items here since the risk is just too high no matter where it goes. I might consider it if any non-eBay alternative will only get me $50 for that item, but if I can get $175 some other way, I'm selling it some other way, irrespective of international shipping considerations.
12-09-2017 03:06 PM
@slippinjimmy wrote:The 39 steps include every possible permutation....
For me it's just 2 steps, select Worldwide, enter shipping amount.
I think for me it's 2 also - Select USA only, block all countries exept USA(since USA only isn't).
Maybe if ebay actually protected a seller from customs hangers and provides a way for a return shipping label(sending money via PP does not cut it), I might consider it for a few seconds, but I'd prefer not to have the GSP ruin an antique toy, or sending it somewhere that it will be used as a pattern to create a counterfeit.
12-09-2017 04:05 PM
Soooo, last week when I changed all my listings to allow international shipping in addition to GSP, removed free shipping, and repriced each item without shipping...I really didn't do anything? And the only way to offer international shipping is to have a business account even though I'm just a small seller with no need for a business account? My head hurts.
12-10-2017 09:34 AM
It is a tough cookie to crack , If you ship internationaly and have to eat 1 out of 4 returns and return shipping you could easliy wipe out profit on other 3 sales. because of shipping. In ideal world this wouldnt be a problem if all transaction were fair, but its too easy to say seller didnt describe ect. I understand why ebay is set up this way and love selling here, but its too much risk to sell internationally. Right now the chinesse market is huge for there antiques and I sell alot but i have to use diffrent method where there is no risk of return ect.
I also feel like alot of international buyers use reshipping services in US to get items which is better for me and lowers my risk as a seller
12-10-2017 10:03 AM
@d-k_treasures wrote:
@slippinjimmy wrote:The 39 steps include every possible permutation....
For me it's just 2 steps, select Worldwide, enter shipping amount.
I think for me it's 2 also - Select USA only, block all countries exept USA(since USA only isn't).
Maybe if ebay actually protected a seller from customs hangers and provides a way for a return shipping label(sending money via PP does not cut it), I might consider it for a few seconds, but I'd prefer not to have the GSP ruin an antique toy, or sending it somewhere that it will be used as a pattern to create a counterfeit.
Late last year or early this year I ventured to the UK Community ... one thing I learned is GSP is more expensive compared to a Seller shipping the package themselves. The list of counties I ship to is short and the items I offer for those countries is short too. I don't offer everything I sell for international shipping. Just too risky and as previously mentioned, the 2 orders I have gotten thus far were with the two slowest mail service countries over there (as folks have pointed out). So I might have to shorten the list of coutnries further. My concern is not so much getting scammed out of the items but rather falling prey to a poor INR process that does not protect the Seller from their other transaction partners ... the carriers, who they have ... absolutely ... no ... control ... over.
12-10-2017 10:35 AM
@bassileid5 wrote:
Hi Newview,
Many thanks for your feedback.
It is unfortunate we do not have these settings on our platform but I think these would be great topics for additional posts in the community. Perhaps a post about choosing the right tracking services according to country or one about where customs can be an issue and which port of entries to avoid delays.
Will look to put something together for you guys. Many thanks again for this.
Bassil
Hmmmm, one might think, since it is required - by the platform - for seller protection, the platform would program the information into the settings. That would be a great 'objective' of a new 'team'.
What good is talking about it in the forums supposed to do for getting a workable option in listings? Doesn't ebay have anyone that can think these things out? Do sellers have to do EVERYTHING?