09-24-2018 08:52 AM - edited 09-24-2018 08:52 AM
I work with a company that's recalling an item, and in fact will render it useless in the near future.
The item is widely resold both new and used on eBay.
eBay is a bit of a brick wall in terms of communication. How should the company notify eBay of the recall? What action, if any, is eBay likely to take?
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09-30-2018 09:45 PM
On the third hand, most manufacturers won't honour warranties on items sold by other than their authorized dealers.
I guess because there would be no paper trail to show that the item was properly treated (and not stolen). A lot of functional stuff is sold here that was purchased in an insurance liquidation or as refurbished.
And that takes in most eBay (and other online) sellers.
So the seller gets the blame (and refunds the payment) but the manufacturer is off the hook.
The seller who is an authorized dealer presumably was informed by the manufacturer and returned his stock for credit.
09-24-2018 09:12 AM - edited 09-24-2018 09:14 AM
The recalls I've seen are for an item deemed unsafe/dangerous by a government agency..........who has done/given notice of a recall.....
How is your company handling other venues? I would think a registed letter from the company would be required..........
When ebay has reacted, they have cancelled all active listings for a recalled item..
09-24-2018 09:50 AM
Its very simple have the company join the VERO program on ebay and have the company pay you to search for listings and get them removed right away.
09-24-2018 11:44 AM - edited 09-24-2018 11:45 AM
Is it up to the owner to police those things item by item. Or is it eBay's responsibility to install filtering of listings?
VeRO might not be a good match as "VeRO may only be used by rights owners to submit claims of alleged intellectual property infringement. eBay doesn't accept reports from rights owners alleging violations of selective distribution agreements, MAP policies, or other contractual agreements."
09-24-2018 11:56 AM
09-24-2018 12:28 PM
@brycenesbitt wrote:Is it up to the owner to police those things item by item. Or is it eBay's responsibility to install filtering of listings?
VeRO might not be a good match as "VeRO may only be used by rights owners to submit claims of alleged intellectual property infringement. eBay doesn't accept reports from rights owners alleging violations of selective distribution agreements, MAP policies, or other contractual agreements."
My thoughts exactly. This is not a VERO issue and in any case, that is much more labor intensive than simply notifying Ebay, on company letterhead, of the recall. They can then implement proper programming that will alert about the recall.
09-24-2018 12:32 PM
If eBay is notified on company letterhead.... will eBay act? Does eBay have a history of acting in such cases?
09-24-2018 12:34 PM
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@brycenesbitt wrote:Is it up to the owner to police those things item by item. Or is it eBay's responsibility to install filtering of listings?
VeRO might not be a good match as "VeRO may only be used by rights owners to submit claims of alleged intellectual property infringement. eBay doesn't accept reports from rights owners alleging violations of selective distribution agreements, MAP policies, or other contractual agreements."
They can then implement proper programming that will alert about the recall.
No they can’t. This is eBay we are talking about. And how would they know when a company decides to recall an item? They could probably track federal recalls but this isn’t a federal recall. It’s a voluntary recall by the company.
09-24-2018 12:35 PM
Like someone mentioned above - does your boss own the rights to this product?
If so have him sign up for vero.
I did and it works.
09-24-2018 12:37 PM
Some recalled items can still be sold but the sellers must include appropriate information about the recall within the listing.
The only items absolutely not allowed are
Good Luck Selling!
09-24-2018 01:03 PM
In this case there's no safety issue, but the product won't work after a certain date. Server side support for the iOT device will be gone.
Are there any examples of products, other than CSPC recalls, where eBay takes action?
09-24-2018 03:02 PM - edited 09-24-2018 03:03 PM
@brycenesbitt wrote:In this case there's no safety issue, but the product won't work after a certain date. Server side support for the iOT device will be gone.
Are there any examples of products, other than CSPC recalls, where eBay takes actio
Not really. eBay actually does not take action until the trademark rights owner contacts them or one of the organizations I mentioned earlier does. Sellers and buyers alike are suppose to check the recall links before they list and buy. I realize not many do this but sellers are responsible for there listings and buyers should want to make sure they are not buying a recalled item.
If buyer buy an item like you mentioned that will not work I assume the buyer will open a not as described return request and the seller who did not check for recalls before listing will have to work out a solution with the buyer.
If you are concerned about the company you are involved with getting a bad name when the product do not work and are still being sold, I would suggest you contacting the trademark owner and explain what you have learned and contact eBay about it. A conference call would probably be advised so all parties are present.
Since you mentioned support for the item will be discontinued that is part of the risk / reward for selling this kind of item and not supporting it through it's reasonably life span. Sometimes you just have to take the hit to your brand name when you quit supporting products you created.
You can also contact CSPS and see what you can do to get your item included and see if they will contact eBay will a new recall item.
Since eBay allows sellers to continue listing some recalled items with recall announcements in the listing there is no easy way to just have sellers stop listing them.
Good Luck Selling!
09-24-2018 03:05 PM
@missjen831 wrote:
@castlemagicmemories wrote:
@brycenesbitt wrote:Is it up to the owner to police those things item by item. Or is it eBay's responsibility to install filtering of listings?
VeRO might not be a good match as "VeRO may only be used by rights owners to submit claims of alleged intellectual property infringement. eBay doesn't accept reports from rights owners alleging violations of selective distribution agreements, MAP policies, or other contractual agreements."
They can then implement proper programming that will alert about the recall.
No they can’t. This is eBay we are talking about. And how would they know when a company decides to recall an item? They could probably track federal recalls but this isn’t a federal recall. It’s a voluntary recall by the company.
You have a point.
09-24-2018 03:14 PM
As a business manufacturing a product I would think you would have a lawyer on retainer to tell you how to recall items and such. Talk to your lawyer on how better to handle such a thing and deal with Ebay.
09-24-2018 03:29 PM - edited 09-24-2018 03:30 PM
The "render it useless" part is the most intriguing. Wonder what it is?