08-15-2021 12:49 PM
I understand about proxy bids and all but I've been watching several of my items over the past few weeks, and I see items that show multiple bids sell for minimum bid?
When I go to bid on an item as a buyer, it will only let me bid the next increment bid or higher. I can't bid the same amount, so as I bid, the item price advances.
How does an item get 5 bids and sell for minimum bid?
08-15-2021 12:52 PM
What item?
I'm seeing bid increases on your sold items so not sure what you are asking
08-15-2021 12:55 PM
If the same bidder makes all 5 bids on an item with no bids, the starting price will not go up until another bidder comes along.
08-15-2021 01:01 PM - edited 08-15-2021 01:03 PM
If an item gets multiple bids but stays at the same bid amount, then all of those bids must be from the same bidder.
You can't bid against yourself. If an auction gets just one bidder, it will sell for the opening bid amount regardless of how high or how many times that bidder bids. Each of their bids would have to be higher than the previous one, but that won't show unless somebody bids against them. Your current auction for a Sturmey Archer speed hub is an example of this; all 3 bids are from the same bidder.
08-15-2021 01:06 PM
I think it's a silly strategy, but some bidders will load it up with several bids. Maybe to scare others away?? IDK...
08-15-2021 01:08 PM
Strange bidders would go through so much but hey save a penny right
08-15-2021 01:35 PM
@mtgraves7984 wrote:I think it's a silly strategy, but some bidders will load it up with several bids. Maybe to scare others away?? IDK...
It's not a "strategy", it's more like.....
Buyer places a bid for the minimum account
30 minutes later they think that maybe they should up their bid to make sure they win
An hour after that they begin to wonder if maybe they didn't place a high enough bid so bid again
The next day they wake up thinking about how they really want this item so they once again increase their bid
And so on and so on.
Then maybe with one day left they change their minds once again and decide they don't actually want the item or don't want to pay that much so they start retracting bids.
I don't know if you have noticed but people don't operate logically all the time! Lots of scatterbrains out there who can't decide what they want.
08-15-2021 03:20 PM - edited 08-15-2021 03:23 PM
You have 5 bids from 1 bidder and that bidder has not been outbid yet.
If the opening bid is $5....
Bidder bids $10.....high bid is $5
Bidder increases bid to $15.....high bid is $5
Bidder increases bid to $100....high bid is $5
Bidder increases bid to $500.....high bid is $5
Bidder increases bid to $501.99.....high bid is $5
5 bids.....still at the opening bid.
It's proxy bidding and the fact that, while you can increase your bid, you can't bid against yourself.
08-15-2021 05:46 PM
Are the multiple bids all from the same bidder in any of those cases?
08-15-2021 06:17 PM
@mtgraves7984 wrote:I think it's a silly strategy, but some bidders will load it up with several bids. Maybe to scare others away??
Exactly. The spouse and I call those "Keep away" bids, intended to discourage rivals or snipers at the end by making it look as if the hidden maximum bid is getting pushed higher and higher. The lead bidder might actually just be putting in nibble bids and isn't any more than, say, $9 ahead of his rival, but no one will know that unless or until they try to outbid him.
08-15-2021 06:25 PM
If all the bids were from the same bidder, then the price would not increase unless a different bidder bid. Nothing wrong there.
08-15-2021 07:01 PM
And if the bidder is a newbie, he may be bidding again and again without realizing that the winning bid is still to him and that is why it is not rising. The high bid (to him) is still showing as $5 the opening.
Then after he has increased his maximum bid from a reasonable $10 to a silly $100, someone comes along and bids a generous but not crazy $25 against the newbie's high bid of $5, and the newbie is outraged that he has to pay $26 when his high bid was only $10. because he forgot about all those others.
08-15-2021 10:32 PM
Yes, this is a bidder strategy to bid a couple extra times to try to make others think they have to bid a lot to outbid them.
Usually when they do get outbid it's only for a few bucks over the start price.
08-16-2021 12:04 AM
If the same bidder places all five bids on an item with no bids, the beginning price will remain the same until another bidder enters the auction.
08-18-2021 11:25 PM
helpful .thank you