Hi all.

[mocollectable2013]

Just wondering does anybody on this moaning board enjoy selling anymore?

Seems to me that you all spend to much time moaning, and not enough time listing!

Me, i just love beautiful items and sending them to good new homes.

Perhaps a glass half full approach would be good, as the alternative seems a little bleak.

Come on guy's cheer up

MO

[thallidguy]

The complainers complain when they have something to complain about. The rest of the time, they just get on with their lives, like the rest of us. And a certain small percent of the population is just going to be tinfoil hat-wearers.

As much valuable advice and information resides in these boards, it's possible to get a distorted view of the eBay life from reading them. I've been hanging around here off and on for about 15 years, and all the time I read about situations I've never encountered in almost two decades of active buying and selling. My eBay life is pretty quiet, almost 10,000 sales and very little to complain about.

I compare it to reading the police blotter in the newspaper. I grew up in a safe, pleasant suburb. But when I read the police blotter in the local newspaper, all I read about was the break-ins, car thefts, public drunkenness, etc. If you never got out of the house, looked around and realized that we actually lived in a quiet town full of people going about their business without incident, you could think that you were surrounded by chaos and anarchy.

[dhbookds]

good comparison, Thallid

[lintbrush*]

So you're moaning about moaners?

[nawlinsron2]

Some moaning is educational...
Good to know that selling high end electronics is cat nip for scammers.
You might sell an iPhone and get back a can of tuna fish if a SNAD case is opened.
Sadly, that's often after the fact.

[castlemagicmemories]

Great positive thoughts, everyone!

The Boards are here to help with issues and thus a lot of problems can end up here.  Along with the problems, there is the moaning that you mention.  Inevitably, a problem will be upsetting, disturbing, thus the moaning you refer to!

Sometimes when knowledge is gained or policy explained, it is rejected.  Many may insist on their own way, and do not accept when they are wrong~in spite of multiple posters explaining~and that may become an issue that they continually bring to the Board~if they are still here.  I recall many who had a listing pulled, and just defiantly kept relisting it, until they were gone.  You can't argue with Ebay, but they insist.  Insisting on your own way just doesn't work.  You sign your own account death warrant.  Sad.  Knowing policy and accepting it is the key to longevity.  Knowledge is empowering and protective.

Thalidguy is right~~you can get a skewed view depending on what you decide to focus on.  Most transactions, I understand, go off without a hitch.  

I just want to thank everyone who posted here so far for their positivity!  That is refreshing, invaluable.  Surely a GREAT thing!

[a_c_green]

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I compare it to reading the police blotter in the newspaper. I grew up in a safe, pleasant suburb. But when I read the police blotter in the local newspaper, all I read about was the break-ins, car thefts, public drunkenness, etc. If you never got out of the house, looked around and realized that we actually lived in a quiet town full of people going about their business without incident, you could think that you were surrounded by chaos and anarchy.

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Oh, heck, yes. My real $DAYJOB is Tech Support for a subsidiary of a software company you have heard of, and we have days when so many problem reports come in that you start to wonder if the software is working properly for anyone out there. The remedy is to look at the main customer list (everyone who's licensing the software) and compare it to the number of complaints; that gives you a much better perspective.

As for people here posting from their selling accounts, you can review their success rate yourself to judge how things are going for them, although if they're not selling the same items as you, those numbers can be a little misleading, too.

[castlemagicmemories]

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So you're moaning about moaners?

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@lintbrush*

[castlemagicmemories]

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Some moaning is educational...
Good to know that selling high end electronics is cat nip for scammers.
You might sell an iPhone and get back a can of tuna fish if a SNAD case is opened.
Sadly, that's often after the fact.

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That after the fact is just so sad, Nawlins.  Many times someone doesn't come to the Board for help or advice until AFTER everything has gone down and there is nothing to be done to help.

[castlemagicmemories]

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Just wondering does anybody on this moaning board enjoy selling anymore?

Seems to me that you all spend to much time moaning, and not enough time listing!

Me, i just love beautiful items and sending them to good new homes.

Perhaps a glass half full approach would be good, as the alternative seems a little bleak.

Come on guy's cheer up

MO

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Come on, guys, cheer up!

That started the Partridge Family song in my head...C'mon get happy!

Moving right along here...

[city*satins]

Come on guy's cheer up.

As world renowned parenting expert Beverly Hofstadter once said:   "Buck up Sissy Pants"

[sockmonkeydave]

I am a happy little monkey, no ebay problems for me, all is good.

But I just got back from the store, 21 bucks for a pot roast, the price of beef is to high.

This is a problem solving board, so yes, you will read about problems.

99.999% of sales go down with no problem, but when they go bad.

This is the place to ask for help.

[thallidguy]

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Some moaning is educational...
Good to know that selling high end electronics is cat nip for scammers.
You might sell an iPhone and get back a can of tuna fish if a SNAD case is opened.
Sadly, that's often after the fact.

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Good and fair points.

I will say that giving advice around here is (or ought to be) a bit of a tightrope. On the one hand, you want to make sure that inexperienced users have the knowledge they need to protect themselves. But on the other hand, we also see situations where people get into trouble by being too scared, too worried. Jumping at shadows.

In that regard, I guess I'm kind of fortunate in that I started trading online through message boards before eBay even existed. You want to talk about an unregulated environment! Those days were like getting caught in the middle of the OK Corral compared to trading on eBay. You really had to develop a strong sense of how to read people and read a situation, and there were a couple of times when I let myself get ripped off. I think that hard experience prepared me for dealing with eBay in a way that not everyone has experienced.

[mallontown]

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Just wondering does anybody on this moaning board enjoy selling anymore?

Seems to me that you all spend to much time moaning, and not enough time listing!

Me, i just love beautiful items and sending them to good new homes.

Perhaps a glass half full approach would be good, as the alternative seems a little bleak.

Come on guy's cheer up

MO

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Well when the ebay CEO is at Davos and CNBC panelist asks a question about the speed of delivery and he says "In the US a package is delivered average in 2 days, for ebay" then sellers have a reason for concern.

"In the US a package is delivered average in 2 days, for ebay"   check out 1:52 of first video.

Ebay even has the audacity to promote the segment.

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[southern*sweet*tea]

I love selling here. I love what I sell, and my buyers are great. I sell on three accounts, all are doing well and I'm having a ball making extra money in my pyjamas!

I don't love some most  all of the stupid and counterproductive things that Ebay does, and I will freely moan about it here.  Doesn't mean that I don't love what I do, though.

This is a help board, 99.9% of the stuff you see will be problems and complaints.