08-09-2022 05:39 PM
For several months, as reported by numerous regular posters, sales literally fell off a cliff.
I know that this issue gets reported all the time. But this past time, there were significantly more postings.
For those of you that noticed a complete halt of normal sales activity in april, may , june ,july.
Have your sales picked up at all? i don't see any postings lately.
My own sales, which were significantly down have somewhat resumed. nothing like it was a couple years ago. but I'm not going a whole week without a sale. please respond with your observations
08-10-2022 05:56 PM
@sakic92710 Unless you make some of the suggested changes it will still happen in Aug, Sept, Oct, and Nov. too.
08-10-2022 08:45 PM
@coolections wrote:
@lasantino wrote:The halt in sales was dramatic and widespread . lo demand, highly competitve market,incorrectly priced items didn't just out of nowhere start affecting sales.
@lasantino People have been saying a dramatic drop just about every month for years. I will concede that the Biden inflation did result is some of it though.
Biden runs the world economy now? 😉
08-10-2022 09:30 PM
YES, by stopping oil production, dealing with China, and a thousand other reasons he sure did.
08-10-2022 10:44 PM
@lasantino wrote:For several months, as reported by numerous regular posters, sales literally fell off a cliff.
Happily, some of those that fell off the cliff landed in my basket. Sales have remained steady across my 4 eBay accounts. No complaints here.
08-12-2022 09:25 AM
@yuzuha wrote:I would presume that the top competitors who are selling seriously as a business would be staying on top of those things, yes. I would not presume the Average Joe would be doing so.
But I know it can happen because I've had it happen to me-- I had a multi-quantity item listed for a price (which was the current market price), sold a few at that price, and then suddenly sales for that item died and it turned out it was because someone else had come in and started undercutting that price and selling the item for less.
I appreciate your response.
The top competitors who sell seriously as a business ARE doing those things.
And they are having the SAME THINGS happen to them as is happening to the Average Joe's.
It's not right to dismiss someone's issues just because they aren't on top. That doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about. Let's face it, an Average Joe selling in their own category likely knows more than *you* do about how things are going there.
Why discount their experiences?
We're the top seller in our own category, and I've given many examples of eBay's issues happening recently. Glitch after glitch. Problems with PLS and PLA. We're in a position where we know the cheapest POSSIBLE prices to get these items manufactured for and can instantly distinguish whether they're working with a manufacturer, an importer, buying locally, or drop-shipping. We know there's very few sellers on eBay PERIOD that get the prices to be able to even undercut, and we carefully track the prices and listings of those who do.
And you say you know it can happen because you've had it happen to you. Well I've had the same issues these Average Joe's have happen to me too and I know it happens. In our experience, we've had far WORSE happen, and it's not just a theory or suspicion, it's been recognized by eBay and many of these things I mention have even been admitted as issues. I have truth on my side.
So I still have to ask the same question... Why do you dismiss the things I've shared to continue to blame sellers? It's denying the truth, it's shaming people who need help, it's only serving to muddy the waters for others experiencing the same thing, and makes it even more difficult to get these issues recognized and resolved.
08-12-2022 10:10 AM
Im sure your sales are good when you are only charging 1.95, 2.95, 3.95 for items with 1.00 dollar shipping. Thats great and all but for most sellers this is a living. Not something to do with your retired free time.
08-12-2022 10:13 AM
no.
08-12-2022 10:18 AM - edited 08-12-2022 10:19 AM
there was a big uptick of sales near the end of July, but since then the switch went back off. We had a few all at once on Wednesday, it was like a switch went on they all came in one batch, and then it went off again. 0 since that that wednesday batch except for 1 this morning. its been the same way on other platforms as well. I still think its something to do with search engines, whether on ebay or outside it. we spoke to ebay about it and they pretty much wont discuss what may or may not be, which kinda makes one question things even more. all they said was there were no known tech issues on the site and everything looked fine. All of this has been discussed in many other threads, but obviously were all dealing with it in some way or another. this odd up and down batches has been this way since May when ebay changed whatever it was they changed.
08-12-2022 11:07 AM
We have had random days where impressions and views double or triple for promoted listings but then drop back to the same declining pattern. It seems like there is a "switch" being turned on and off at random times.
For the people reporting sales back to normal for August or random months/weeks. We had that happen June into July and then it halved overnight and on steady decline since. Again, we have had a few days where we see some listings all the sudden "turn on" for a day or few hours and impressions skyrocket, views skyrocket, and then sales come in, but we are used to many sales a day and tens of thousands of dollars in sales a week just on eBay. With 15-20 million impressions and 50K+ of views monthly, but we are now down to 3.6 million a month, less than 10K views, etc and that is with everything promoted quadruple, many of our most popular items priced lower and lower every week. We are lucky to have a few sales a day right now.
Have read the economy angle, which is certainly true, but we also have seen days where literally impressions skyrocket and then its like a switch is turned off a day or two later. June into mid July we had 3 weeks of normal sales. But then a cliff drop by almost 50% over night and then a steady decline since then (other than the few days where things blip on).
We have had over a decade of experience selling online. Accounts on all major marketplaces. Experienced Ups and Downs. Bad economy's and Good economy's. Watched our category become more saturated and scarce at different times. Watched small sellers become huge and big sellers fail as well. There are definitely categories experiencing saturation and price cuts due to world factors right now, but we have dealt with that before and certainly periods of decline.
Watching impressions, views, and sales fall to levels that we have not see in our entirety on eBay, when our other marketplaces are not having the same cliff like dive in metrics does point to an issue with promoted listings program code or changes made late spring. We believe this because when things do blip back to normal it is always a skyrocket in promoted views, impressions and sales via promoted listings, and even sales on listings that are not the most competitive or cheapest.
The things that many of the experienced sellers are detailing with the PLS, PLA and relation to impressions, views, and ultimately sales are not simply a coincidence across all different types of categories. We are not saying everyone experiencing a slowdown is dealing with the same cause, since some people do not even use PLS or PLA, but many of the long time sellers on this thread do and are detailing it, pointing to the extreme surges or drops in impressions. Like some code or something is blocking or interfering.
It is not a coincidence that some of the people here are noticing days or weeks where their impressions skyrocket back to normal levels from months ago and then one day it drops by 50-75%. Just wondering if it is an accidental issue or if it is eBay testing different things on the back-end to see how it affects different sellers across different categories.
08-12-2022 11:14 AM
Interesting pmg-distributors...to add to what you said, another member somewhere in one of the other threads had stated this about the problem:
if true its very concerning.
08-12-2022 12:26 PM
July was my only decent month in 2022. August has reverted back to dismal. 5 sales in 12 days. 3 of those came on 1 day. Even had to make a drastic change in my life to try to reduce the effects of relying on this pathetic site.
09-14-2022 10:01 AM
hi,, can you give us an update on what your sales trend metric is showing now?
were you looking at the sales trend metric for all of your sales combined? or one category?
09-14-2022 10:37 AM
@chapeau-noir wrote:I haven't listed in well over a week and sales are still trickling through. Can't complain since I haven't put much into it and don't have much running despite being in a super-saturated category. Since I just started listing again (found more inventory), we'll see.
Good luck to you - I have listed so few items this year and that trend will continue into the foreseeable future - I have decided that I am unwilling to give up up to 25%+ of my profit in fees to sell with no slowing of increases in the near future.
I could see this coming back in 2017 or whenever promoted listings first started and hedged my sales with a Part time Supervisor position at UPS. I'm playing the waiting game to see how things pan out - It's a win/win for me since my job pays all of my bills and more and the large stock of items I have for sale are historically proven to increase in value over time, (though I do have some Electronics, Holiday items, and Trending items I would like to move over the short term)
I think in 5 to 10 years time we will see excellent new options and more appreciative online sales venues. Only time will tell...
09-14-2022 10:41 AM
No only seems worse
09-14-2022 01:57 PM
The sales trend has flattened out.......sales down on average 23K/month which is a huge drop in sales that has me looking where / how I can shift my online sales to cover the loss.
I am no longer looking at a daily average because that is all over the place. Now calculating a weekly average.
Nothing makes a lot of sense with my listings....at selling fees near 20% I an reluctant to buy more inventory to put more eyes on my store.
This problem is complex.... I blame myself for exclusively selling on ebay for the last 23 years instead of building multiple streams of income from the same product mix.
I have recently opened a shopify website.....the website, seo and hosting all in all less that $1500 to get up and running. There is a lot of grunt work when you start a website up...hours up hours of listings.
Once this is done and God willing up and running smoothly..... I will be able to sell slightly less product, more profitably and only dealing with customers I really want to deal with.
One thing that keeps the scammers away is Zipcode blocking..... ebay doesn't have that functionality thus the massive amounts of issues not related to selling.
We will see how this all goes over the next 3 months. The race is on towards the end of the year.
HK