Good Riddens Ebay!

[Anonymous]

After some very long thought, we have decided to stop selling on ebay after 17 years of doing so.  The managed payment system is a hassle, and they have at times withheld payments longer than usual due to an "unknown problem".   When we call customer service?  They say they do not know what the problem is, only that there is one.  We do not ship until payment goes through, and this greatly has held up some shipments and resulted in buyer's being unhappy.  Secondly, we always use tracking and signature confirmation.  But if that buyer lies and says the package was not gotten?  In the last year Ebay has let 2 buyers get away with this.  Each time they sided with the buyer, though we showed proof that the package was in fact delivered.  The first time it cost us $2000.00 .  This last time it cost us over $4000.00.  Ebay sided with both buyers and refunded them both, directly debiting our bank account.  The tracking and signature confirmation *should* protect seller's.  But we have learned over the years that ebay ALWAYS sides with the buyer.  And as of lately their selling policies have been completely unsupportive of seller's and the managed payments have also become a head ache.  Tired of losing money!  Good riddens ebay!

[shirkie_42]

@Anonymous  you know your rant would be better if you used a real word, like RIDDANCE, not some made up word like riddens?

[inhawaii]

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@shirkie_42 wrote:

@Anonymous  you know your rant would be better if you used a real word, like RIDDANCE, not some made up word like riddens?

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We all knew what he/she meant.   😉

[soh.maryl]

Nah, I'm pretty sure we got the OP's message despite the spelling error.  

[inhawaii]

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@divwido wrote:

Blame it on mother, Bless her soul, but riddance.  Thank you for moot Inhawaii, must be in the mispelled top ten.

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All those times i listened to "Jessie's Girl" paid off. 

[maxine*j]

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@ewheelie wrote:

The PayPal payment process is ending, so today I am being forced to link my bank account, for unfettered eBay access, for not only deposits, but also unfettered access for withdrawals. In addition, eBay wants me to log into my bank account through a third party app "PayWithMyBank".

 What could go wrong? Does eBay think they are immune to being hacked.? There are numerous ways (screen scraping, hacked API's) that this third party 'PayWithMyBank" could expose my login and password.

#1 My Wells Fargo banker told me to never let anyone have open access for withdrawals on my bank account . This is the same as an open ACH allowing access to my account.

#2 Giving a third party my bank account login credentials?? Once again against Wells Fargo policy!

* I'm trying to figure out if it's better to stay on the eBay selling platform, because I'll soon have less completion with everyone canceling their eBay account - or should I just go ahead and cancel my account. (20 year seller)...

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Why not do the business-like thing and open a separate account for your eBay sales?  You should never commingle your business and private funds, anyhow.

As for hacks, of course eBay doesn't think itself immune to hacks.  Federal, state, and local governments have all been hacked.  Universities have been hacked.   Insurance companies, including medical insurers, have been hacked.  All the social media giants have been hacked.  Banks -- including Wells Fargo -- have been hacked.  If I remember rightly, one of the bigger PayPal data breaches affected well over a million and half users.  And on and so on. 

Whether you come or go surely ought to be based on something more than a fear of eBay being hacked and a reluctance to open a business bank account.

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[mobley120]

"eBay wants me to log into my bank account through a third party app "PayWithMyBank".

 What could go wrong?"

Probably the fullness of the devil's spectrum.

eBay has made it so easy for sellers to be raked over flaming coals, by the devilish type. And with that said, eBay has seemly become a seething hole for the those types. Although, "call me naive", but I believe the vast majority of eBay users are good people, but I also believe the shady ones are increasing in  their numbers, from all over the world, with every passing day.

And with that in mind, what could possibly go wrong?

And to be honest, I don't know how anyone can even trust eBay, they've done absolutely nothing in a substantial effort to deter those devilish ones, in fact, it seems to me, eBay merely opens the door wider for them. And, eBay's "not so long ago" behavior, definitely is not indicative of an entity that one might place trust in.

The above is just my opinions:

[johnrj1226]

@divwido

 Think inhawaii got it right, check out  the Websters and/or google, also you  messed up on misspelled (mispelled is incorrect).  Guess your spell check had a "glitch"

[chapeau-noir]

@inhawaii  is

**THE BEST SPELLER ON eBay**

[sunrize33]

No, I beg to differ.  eBay is not for everyone or everything, not online selling!  If the changes were positive and good as some would have us believe, you would not see the sea parting as people leave and say so on here clinging to hope someone will wake up.  I realize this will not happen so I am saying see ya too and I assure you I will STILL find places to sell with much less stress.

[sunrize33]

Forgive my tYpO's;)

[mobley120]

"Think inhawaii got it right, check out  the Websters and/or google, also you  messed up on misspelled (mispelled is incorrect).  Guess your spell check had a "glitch""

To be in a light of correctness, it would appear to me "Think" should be "I think or methinks; etc.." I guess your sense of correctness only applies to others... you know, I don't think I've ever written anything that has been free of grandmatical issues. And I am a writer, I would say author, but I'll leave that title for others. Anyway, I'm always in a need of an editor, especially those who like doing such, for free. 

And just to mention, I can't think of anyone who likes grammatical police: it's just not a prudent activity.

[maxine*j]

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@chapeau-noir wrote:

@inhawaii  is

**THE BEST SPELLER ON eBay**

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and has many sell's too not that their relayted tho of coarse

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[katzrul15]

Guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

There are many Sellers who post on here who have zero idea what they're doing, what e-bay's parameters are, etc.  And honestly, I am tired of hearing "I am not a business, so it shouldn't apply to me".

The minute you registered, it "applied" to you.

I will say it again - ONLINE selling is NOT for everyone.  There is risk in every aspect of business, online or otherwise.  If Sellers cannot wait 48 hours to get their monies on a daily payout, let alone get paid every week - The OP's situation of losing $6k is a lot of money.  But to sell items on this site or any other has the potential to be ripe with issues of fraud and complications.  You can be that naive or pretend to be - either way, you are probably not going to like the outcome.

And any Seller who sells anywhere, who does not build theft, buyer scams, lost parcels, damaged product and general selling gone awry into their  Selling module, should NOT be selling online.  It WILL happen to all of us at some point.  (denial is not your friend)

[mobley120]

"I am tired of hearing "I am not a business, so it shouldn't apply to me".

The minute you registered, it "applied" to you."

If I might; if I may write a comment about your post, and hopefully I'll not be disdained or censored because of my views.

I don't believe one owns a business just because they sell an item on eBay, I believe, in most states, if not all, a business license is required for one to own a legitimate business. However, I guess  one must assume when one  signed up with eBay they then become an active part of a business, or something like that. 

What I get tired of reading about, here in the community, is the comparisons and the never ending justifications of eBay's insanity, ( I used the word "insanity" as one's own prospective), responses like; as in; and, in brevity:

so and so does the same thing.

And I find those type of responses to be merely excuses: a sell out of morals, character; etc..

Risk: one has been in an accident and excessive speed was deemed as the cause of it, and the notable negative effects of the accident. And the one  who was speeding, and caused it, simply states "well, everyone else does it," does that excuses the cause and effects of the accident?

You know, selling stuff online use to be low risk, back when the sellers feedback actually meant something to a prospected buyer, back when sellers had control of their sales.  But I guess things are forever changing, and whether those changes are for the good or for the bad, it seems not to matter. And, it seem to me, such changes are mainly dictated by corporate behavior, and with that said, I, myself would consider eBay as the good, the bad and ugly.

The above is just my opinions, doesn't mean anything.

I merely ride my bicycle in an elevator, thus I go 'round and 'round, and up and down at the same time. All of it is just a prospective view from my dizziness.

[chapeau-noir]

I do believe that for someone who just wants to clear out a few things from the house and that's it, getting set up on eBay is a lot now.  I'll get blue-slapped for this but I've actually warned people of this when they ask me, though I'm perfectly willing to help them get set up here because it has the biggest market, no doubt.  But for someone who wants to just clear some stuff out in a one or two time thing, it's a lot.  For someone who wants an ongoing hobby/small business/gig, eBay works fine - I mean, if a financial slacker like myself can manage it, just about anyone can.  Whether they want to, is another matter, but that's up to the individual.  Thing is, a couple of times I've had people ask if they have to have a Paypal account to sell on eBay, as they don't have one and don't really want one. 

As for the spelling around here - I worked as an editor and hack writer for 30 years, but I'd be the last person to hassle someone about their typos considering how many I make when I post.  🤤