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Getting harder to find inventory.

Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.

 

I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.

 

When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.

 

Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.

 

You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.

 

A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.

 

When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.

Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.

 

That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone.  I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.

 

For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.

But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.

 

Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically  sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.

 

Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly  63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.

As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.

 

The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.

 

Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.

 

So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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"Set a goal - say 30 items.  You will NOT BUY ANYTHING ELSE until you clear out 30 items."

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I tried that once.

 

 

 

 

.. then I saw a listing with something shiny

 

Woman LOL

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No one has mentioned the spiders.   Ever disturb a nest of baby spiders?  Hundreds of them running in different directions, just trying to get out of the light.

 

Snake skins are always cause for concern.

 

Warning texts that go out....gloves, masks, old clothes....third layer down is a gold mine. 

 

Coming home from work, undressing in the garage and hitting the shower immediately.  Then wondering what sort of creatures I've left behind in the truck/car.

 

GIve me 'the family just brought in the dumpster' any day.

 

A haunted house - the family only lived in one half because they couldn't stand the things that go bump in the night.  And you want me to work in that house?

 

Ah, but the treasures I have found... $1000 in cash (turned in, not kept)...'where did you find that, daddy gave it to me when I was little.  I thought I lost it forever'...the smile on a widowers face when I told him I saw his wife as a woman with a generous heart (she had a ton of gift wrap, boxes and gift card holders)...and a whole variety of things I had never seen before that were part of people's everyday life.

 

My friends enjoy my tales of an estate sale staff member.    I enjoy the job, even some of the yucky part.   (and you can - gasp - put fostoria glass in a dishwasher to make it presentable)

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@jennieaa wrote:

No one has mentioned the spiders.   Ever disturb a nest of baby spiders?  Hundreds of them running in different directions, just trying to get out of the light.



That is my own personal nightmare plus bees and wasps. I did a garage that had an attic with all 3 and I didnt find a darned thing but some mouse chewed vintage skin mags lol

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This is a truly enjoyable thread, filled with people who love what they do!

People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, @quadcitypickers

It is.
But the trick is to figure out what will be popular when you turn 40 and how to obtain it at a low cost.
Cost, not price, because you will be storing it for 20+ years.

People collect the ‘good old days’.
Their grandfather’s days.
For my generation that was quarter sawn oak tables and press back chairs.
Today there is a strong market for Mid-Century Modern chairs and lamps. (And textiles and tchotchkes)
I expect to see avocado green re-enter the decor market any day now.

Postal history seems to appeal to all kinds of buyers world wide. @duncanvr
And yet that market only opened up about 10 years ago, based on having a B&M stamp store from 1978 to 2014 and still running an international public philatelic auction.
Most of our postal history auction lots go to dealers, btw.

It is because in the 1980s, trading card companies got greedy and these things are common as dirt. @luckythewinner
Anything that is sold as a collectible, has no secondary market.
When ‘only kids’ bought trading cards, and used the cards in games, they had a primary purpose. In the 80s the companies looked at the growing (Boomer?) market and started overproducing.
Stamps had the same kind of bubble and bust, but with a primary purpose that was not the collector, they weathered the bust and came out stronger, witness the relatively recent postal history market and the much more sophisticated exhibits at stamp shows.
They have systems in place to scrap metal, and dont ALSO sell videogames, because that would interfere with their system. @stitchesandseamsct
However, it is possible to do that on eBay by selling under different IDs. Or even having a Store with different categories. (Bibles and Bellydancing?)
The expertise is another question, of course.

But also at some point, you need to admit that some listings are duds and pass them on as donations or put them on the lawn for a yard sale. @rixstuff
Before we closed our shop, sold our house, retired and moved West, we donated 75 banker’s boxes of books to the Friends of the Library.
I’ve worked retail. Garage sales are for people who don’t work retail.
Welll- we used to have a neighbourhood garage sale each year . And my neighbours made it a party by serving mimosa cocktails before the official 8am opening.


I donate my duds to GW, SA, etc.  It isnt necessarily that someone else came and snapped up all the goodies, it may be that there werent that many goodies donated to them in the first place.  @rixstuff
Exactly.
Snake skins are always cause for concern. @jennnieaa
Well, they mean you don’t have mice.
Any more.

 

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feel like donating me all your postal history itemsgrin but your right postal history seems to appeals to all kinds of buyers world wide. I seem to have buyers in China I don't know if they are dealers or collectors?? With collectors they look for a specific postmark or stamp or they just like the envelope. Or they like the old letter from the 17th century. I recently sold 1690 Italian letters a bunch of them to China. You can't even read them but superb penmanship! I think more sellers having trouble with sales should look more closley at selling postal history. Many similar looking items but each are unique in their own way. For this reason you have more chances to sell. You can get home runs. You have competitors but they don't have the exact cover / letter that you have. And your buyers going to come to you if they like the item you listed.  Everything sells in the end. What is more in years of selling on eBay I have had zero returns, and I get repeat buyers. Some buyers still buying something evey week for years. Number of followers on your shop. I see so many sellers of common goods with limited number of store followers. I currently have 285 following. Common goods your relying on one at a time buyers most of the time and hoping your item isn't returned. I find a mix of auctions and BIN I get somethings selling every day. And some days have been terrific. Check my listings on the ebay UK site, I use that site as I get 1500 free listings a month from there. Its a money saver.

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I remember coming home with a whole truck load of glassware that I bought for $6.00 at the end of an auction. I mean it was a flat bed of glass that people just didn't want, most were mid century but some were really nice.
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@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.

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@coolections wrote:

@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.


I have to admit that one was a bit hard for me to swallow as well, I've saw some crazy stuff being thrown out but this would definately take the cake, I come from a family of undiagnosed horders on both sides so what do I know, I know plenty of people that throw stuff out without a second thought and I still couldn't see them throwing out a Rolex.

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I didn't see much in this thread about books. Obviously the vast magority of books are worth nothing.  There are still books worth more than a pittance. My sources have dried up a lot over the years, and the old days of making good sales on a small inventory, auctions only (before stores)...well long gone.  Library sales are a big source of inventory for most dealers but most have volunteers to sell the better books online.  More power to them to raise money for their libraries but it hits the dealers hard.

 

I do have a dealer friend who seems to be doing well. He gets tons of books from big thrifts - he gets first pick because he sells them online for the stores. But he has branched out and gets a huge amount of inventory from government auctions and buying out stores.  Though once he commented that after paying for his warehouse and employees, he's not making the big bucks. Obviously more than me with my small basement.  But he shows that it's not that hard to get inventory if prepared to buy in bulk and sort out the good stuff.

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Re: the 1980s card companies got greedy.

 

Um, they have to maximize profits just like any other company. They're no more greedy for making extra cards than you are for wishing they made fewer cards. Their consideration should have been (and was) for their current market, not for future generations to make a profit from.

 

See this is what really annoys me now about things I want to buy. Toy Story Vans, Dooney and Burke Disney purses. Why do they limit production? These limited things sell to sellers who resell for x times the original price. These companies are not making their buyers happy, they are making scalpers happy. I don't get it.

 

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Why do they limit production? 

 

Because buyers perceive there is more value, and then they can show off that they have the item to others that don't have it, otherwise the item has NO VALUE. 

 

 

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

Why do they limit production? 

 

Because buyers perceive there is more value, and then they can show off that they have the item to others that don't have it, otherwise the item has NO VALUE. 

 

 


Exactly.

 

What would the Aschlies and the Typhanees do if they couldn't look down on others for not being able to get the new D&B purse, Louboutin heels or Sephora palette???

 

The "limited run, designer label" conglomerates are laughing all the way to the bank.

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@rolenboy01 wrote:

@coolections wrote:

@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.


I have to admit that one was a bit hard for me to swallow as well, I've saw some crazy stuff being thrown out but this would definately take the cake, I come from a family of undiagnosed horders on both sides so what do I know, I know plenty of people that throw stuff out without a second thought and I still couldn't see them throwing out a Rolex.


I can believe it. My dad found a Rolex in when he remodled our house .Not one person in the family thought it was real so he tossed it in a box of junk and forgot about it for years.  When he died I was sorting his stuff, and came accross it. I almost tossed it as a fake but someting about how heavy it was made me think twice.

Long story short, I had it authenticated and sold it for a pretty penny.

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But often times buyers cannot buy the items, it all goes to resellers like the Target fiascos. It doesn't make the original company any more money to create outrageous demand that cannot be met.

 

Buying a D&B purse is hardly the kind of thing people would show off and boast about. Maybe if it were Coach or LV or something. I wanted the D&B purse because it has Alice in Wonderland on it because that is a happy part of my childhood. Most people I know wouldn't give a rat's butt about me having that purse.

 

The companies are killing their own marketplace. They will come to regret it.

 

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Comparing Dooney to Louboutin is odd. Louboutin is far more expensive and shoes are easier to destroy. 

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