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Getting harder to find inventory.

Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.

 

I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.

 

When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.

 

Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.

 

You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.

 

A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.

 

When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.

Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.

 

That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone.  I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.

 

For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.

But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.

 

Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically  sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.

 

Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly  63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.

As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.

 

The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.

 

Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.

 

So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@emerald40 wrote:

@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:


Or it could be that people like me have been telling them what is happening here on ebay and that is why their donations are drying up.


You don't think they already know that? You DO realize Goodwill has its own auction website?

 


They do now.  But did they always have one on ebay or is it something recent.

 

But even the yard sellers know about ebay and have priced their items accordingly.

 

I guess word got through as to what resellers were doing.


Goodwill is not recent to Ebay. Here's a few:

https://www.ebay.com/usr/seattlegoodwill  Member since: Jun 03, 2002

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_industries_of_san_francisco?rt=nc  Member since: Jun 25, 2001

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill-maine?rt=nc  Member since: Sep 09, 1998

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_industries_of_south_florida  Member since: Jan 19, 2011

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwilladrianmi  Member since: Mar 10, 2009|

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_southern_alleghenies?rt=nc  Member since: Apr 13, 2006

http://stores.ebay.com/thriftonic/About-Us.html  https://www.ebay.com/usr/thriftonic Member since: Jun 08, 2012 (Silicon Valley if you can imagine!)

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:


Or it could be that people like me have been telling them what is happening here on ebay and that is why their donations are drying up.


You don't think they already know that? You DO realize Goodwill has its own auction website?

 


They do now.  But did they always have one on ebay or is it something recent.

 

But even the yard sellers know about ebay and have priced their items accordingly.

 

I guess word got through as to what resellers were doing.


Goodwill is not recent to Ebay. Here's a few:

https://www.ebay.com/usr/seattlegoodwill  Member since: Jun 03, 2002

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_industries_of_san_francisco?rt=nc  Member since: Jun 25, 2001

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill-maine?rt=nc  Member since: Sep 09, 1998

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_industries_of_south_florida  Member since: Jan 19, 2011

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwilladrianmi  Member since: Mar 10, 2009|

https://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwill_southern_alleghenies?rt=nc  Member since: Apr 13, 2006

http://stores.ebay.com/thriftonic/About-Us.html  https://www.ebay.com/usr/thriftonic Member since: Jun 08, 2012 (Silicon Valley if you can imagine!)


It's odd Goodwill sells here when they have their own auction gig. Why pay fees when you can sell it on your own site for nothing? Stuff sells quite well on their site too.

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The charity thrift shops I go to all have silent auctions.  My way of paying them back/thanking them for providing quality re-sellables at reasonable prices, is to donate nice high-end items (like the boxes full of lovely items I've inherited from family and cannot use),  for their auctions rather than sell them on this site for a fraction of what they are worth.  I see it as a win-win situation.  I pick up lots of easy to sell on eBay inventory from them, and in return they make a killing on stuff that no longer has a market on eBay, but does well in our local area.  I also specifically request that the expensive items I give them are actually put into the auctions because of their value.  That way they make a nice profit which in kind is used to support their programs.  And I know that my family pieces will go to places where they will be valued, not resold here.

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I just wanted to add that I have nothing against the re-selling items I have sold or donated.  I realize that many Sellers get amazing bargains on eBay for re-sale and it makes good business sense.   This is a great thread by the way.  So many interesting opinions!

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@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

here we are again...

well...

if re-sellers wouldn't be able to find merchandise cheap enough to re-sell where would sites like;

Amazon, Etsy, Ebay, Ruby Lane... BE...???

 

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Big differene between resellers getting their merchandise from yard sales and flea markets then from the donated merchandise to a thrfit that is supposed to be used to support the poor.


And when the poor cant afford to shop there, they are doing no one any good


emerald40 would rather all thrift stores in the world go out of business than let resellers shop at them.


Some folks need to get truly broke, cold and hungry.

 


My husband and I worked 2 jobs each most of our lives.  He could have retired already but is still working.  I have health issues and could retire, but I am still working.

 

We always lived below our means and saved, saved, saved.

 

In other words, we did everything we could so that would not happen.

 

And as said in another thread my family owns a Jewelry store.  Yes in New York.  I chose to not live off my family and moved to Rhode Island.

 

Everything we have we earned ourselves.


Yet you still act like the poor are icky and dont want to work...yeah ok


What?  You really got that wrong.

 

I support those that are ill and cannot work.

 

I do not support those who are able bodied and too lazy to work.


Stop. Just stop.

 

Reselling IS a job.

 

All you do by making statements like that is further annoy posters who work hard on eBay. You're coming across as a conceited, condescending person who thinks you're better than us.

 

Your contempt for resellers is sad, considering you sell here too (or claim to).

 

I resell here so people like you don't have to "support" me. Many others do to. To make statements like "some don't want to work" just shows how out of touch you are. How dare you imply resellers are lazy. 

 

Again, I say, its obvious you've never been truly poor, hungry, and cold. 

 

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@emerald40 wrote:


I assume nothing.  Some sellers have readily admitted it here that they do not want a 9 to 5 job.


Lucky me, I chose to sell on ebay which is a 24/7 job.

 

I quit retail thinking I would be working less.

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@emerald40 wrote:

@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:


Or it could be that people like me have been telling them what is happening here on ebay and that is why their donations are drying up.


You don't think they already know that? You DO realize Goodwill has its own auction website?

 


They do now.  But did they always have one on ebay or is it something recent.

 

But even the yard sellers know about ebay and have priced their items accordingly.

 

I guess word got through as to what resellers were doing.


Goodwill has had it's own auction site for many years.

 

And half of the time it blows ebay away on prices.

 

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@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

here we are again...

well...

if re-sellers wouldn't be able to find merchandise cheap enough to re-sell where would sites like;

Amazon, Etsy, Ebay, Ruby Lane... BE...???

 

________________________________________________

 

Big differene between resellers getting their merchandise from yard sales and flea markets then from the donated merchandise to a thrfit that is supposed to be used to support the poor.


And when the poor cant afford to shop there, they are doing no one any good


emerald40 would rather all thrift stores in the world go out of business than let resellers shop at them.


If a thrift store is not serving the poor as it is intended, then what does it matter if it stays in business. or not?


The goal of many thrift stores is to raise funds for their charity so they can continue to provide services to the needy, they DO NOT exist to provide direct products for the poor and homeless to buy and I'm sick of you claiming as such, the goal of a thirft store is to make PROFIT from goods that were donated to them FREE of charge so they can continue their mission.


You can be sick of anything you want, but I am still not going to agree with you.

 

And if what you are saying is true, why have all these thifts now raised their prices.

 

I understand that some of the items donated would be useless for the poor.  And that is why you offer them to the public at a competitive price.

 

And I agree that they should profit from goods that were donated.  And I highlight the word "they."

 

 


They have raised the prices because they felt the market could bare it and I'm assuming because their costs to operate have increased like everyone elses, whether the market will truly bare the increases or not is another story.


Or it could be that people like me have been telling them what is happening here on ebay and that is why their donations are drying up.


Donations aren't drying up where I live so what is your point? they bring out carts and carts of fresh merch daily at a local store, you can't apply a one size fit's all excuse to every situation just because it fits your narrative that's why you are angering a lot of people.


It is a conversation.  I am not angry so no clue why others would be.  

 

And it may be fine where you are, but not where I am.  According to the calls I get weekly they are desperate for donations.

 

And of course I can onyt tell you based on my findings here as you just did about your home town.

 

So if there is no one size fits all why are my findings based on what I see an excuse?


An excuse for what? an excuse assumes that there is a problem and the problem is in your own mind, you are assuming people don't work or are too lazy to work just because they sell things on eBay I'm not sure why, but again that angers people when you make assumptions about their life you cannot prove and are false, many small sellers here are supplementing their income any way they can I'm not sure why that is any of your concern.


I assume nothing.  Some sellers have readily admitted it here that they do not want a 9 to 5 job.


..and what is wrong with that? 14 million people in America are self-employed. Some of them make really good money at it.


Again you are misunderstanding.

 

Work is work whether you are self employed or work for others.

But there are othes kvetching here that they cannot live on ebay sales but will not take a part time job.

They just continue to moan that sales have tanked, ebay did it, nothing they are doing could be at fault, and working for the man (or themselves) in an outside job to supplement ebay is out of the question.

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@rustictrollop wrote:

The charity thrift shops I go to all have silent auctions.  My way of paying them back/thanking them for providing quality re-sellables at reasonable prices, is to donate nice high-end items (like the boxes full of lovely items I've inherited from family and cannot use),  for their auctions rather than sell them on this site for a fraction of what they are worth.  I see it as a win-win situation.  I pick up lots of easy to sell on eBay inventory from them, and in return they make a killing on stuff that no longer has a market on eBay, but does well in our local area.  I also specifically request that the expensive items I give them are actually put into the auctions because of their value.  That way they make a nice profit which in kind is used to support their programs.  And I know that my family pieces will go to places where they will be valued, not resold here.


100% agree.  I donated all of the contents of two homes.  Everything from bedroom furniture to small kitchen appliances to linen to clothing.  Really nice things.

 

And I wanted the same for my items - maybe not to go into auction but for them to be given to families in need.

 

Now my MIL is in a nursing home.  Have to clean out her house as well.  Goodwill will not see anything from it.

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@rustictrollop wrote:

I just wanted to add that I have nothing against the re-selling items I have sold or donated.  I realize that many Sellers get amazing bargains on eBay for re-sale and it makes good business sense.   This is a great thread by the way.  So many interesting opinions!


If what the resellers here are saying is true and they are picking up items for pennies on the dollar and selling it here for hundreds if not thousands of dollars, it does not make good business sense for the thrift, the place you and I are donating to.

 

If there are some here in dire need, then by all means I hope you get the help you need.  It is why I donate.

 

But if you have a car, and a computer and an Iphone and a roof over your head and bragging about your conquests at the thrifts .....

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@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@rolenboy01 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

here we are again...

well...

if re-sellers wouldn't be able to find merchandise cheap enough to re-sell where would sites like;

Amazon, Etsy, Ebay, Ruby Lane... BE...???

 

________________________________________________

 

Big differene between resellers getting their merchandise from yard sales and flea markets then from the donated merchandise to a thrfit that is supposed to be used to support the poor.


And when the poor cant afford to shop there, they are doing no one any good


emerald40 would rather all thrift stores in the world go out of business than let resellers shop at them.


Some folks need to get truly broke, cold and hungry.

 


My husband and I worked 2 jobs each most of our lives.  He could have retired already but is still working.  I have health issues and could retire, but I am still working.

 

We always lived below our means and saved, saved, saved.

 

In other words, we did everything we could so that would not happen.

 

And as said in another thread my family owns a Jewelry store.  Yes in New York.  I chose to not live off my family and moved to Rhode Island.

 

Everything we have we earned ourselves.


Yet you still act like the poor are icky and dont want to work...yeah ok


What?  You really got that wrong.

 

I support those that are ill and cannot work.

 

I do not support those who are able bodied and too lazy to work.


Stop. Just stop.

 

Reselling IS a job.

 

All you do by making statements like that is further annoy posters who work hard on eBay. You're coming across as a conceited, condescending person who thinks you're better than us.

 

Your contempt for resellers is sad, considering you sell here too (or claim to).

 

I resell here so people like you don't have to "support" me. Many others do to. To make statements like "some don't want to work" just shows how out of touch you are. How dare you imply resellers are lazy. 

 

Again, I say, its obvious you've never been truly poor, hungry, and cold. 

 


Did you just skip over the last poster's comments.

 

Not everyone is going to agree with you, so if my comments bother you scroll past them like I do with some posters.

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@prescott4 wrote:

Emerald you do realize that eBay gained its popularity because of resellers, right?

So what if folks don't want a 9 to 5 job? Why should it matter to you? With the amount of time you spend on these boards it's highly unlikely you have a 9 to 5 job.

I honestly believe that your issue goes back to your whole "ick factor" with buying used. You've realized that you probably have bought dumpster dived items and that grosses you out. So now you're taking it out on people that make decent money recycling items for resale.

Also you act like donating to charity is giving people a hand out rather than what it should be which is giving them a hand up. The difference is a handout is a freebie,  a hand up helps them better their station of life and create a better life for themselves.

The sheer amount of conceit that you have shown in this and other threads is disturbing but you know what that's not on us that's on you. It reflects the kind of person you are. As for donating to charity I would love to know the specifics that you donate to so that one I never buy from them and to I never asked him for anything or donate to them myself


I work part time.

 

And yes I am here alot, helping others and answering their questions

 

As for the rest of your post it is your perceived notion about me but could not be farther from the truth.

 

As far as not wanting items from a dumpster, yes I keep a very clean house.  Something I am proud of.

 

Do not want used designer items to impress people.  I prefer the mass made merchandise.

 

And since I doubt you and I will ever cross paths what I donate and to whom is none of your concern.

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I wish you would stop saying people buy designer good to impress people. It's very insulting to some of us. I prefer designer goods because they are usually better made out of better quality fabric than the kind of clothes you buy at Target. Clothes are washable and I'm recycling older quality items. I don't care what people think about my clothes, I dress to please myself. So you're way off base there.

 

I'm all for supporting you buying clothes wherever you want but each time you talk about it you are backslapping those of us with other opinions. I think that's more the reason people are arguing with you and not about your personal opinion.

 

Your opinion is your opinion but it crosses the line when you make demeaning comments about the choices of others.

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

I wish you would stop saying people buy designer good to impress people. It's very insulting to some of us. I prefer designer goods because they are usually better made out of better quality fabric than the kind of clothes you buy at Target. Clothes are washable and I'm recycling older quality items. I don't care what people think about my clothes, I dress to please myself. So you're way off base there.

 

I'm all for supporting you buying clothes wherever you want but each time you talk about it you are backslapping those of us with other opinions. I think that's more the reason people are arguing with you and not about your personal opinion.

 

Your opinion is your opinion but it crosses the line when you make demeaning comments about the choices of others.

 

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Yes you dress to please yourself and I shop and dress to please me.

 

Do you see me getting huffy over your opinions, so allow me to have mine without the insults.


And I find it demeaning when others try to censor my opinion, which you have acknowledged is only an opinion  - mine.

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So I should be happy that your opinion of people like me is that I'm a shallow empty person who buys things to impress others? I'm not happy about you saying that. You don't know me. I too volunteer my time here and also teaching children. 

 

As I said, I respect your choices. I don't appreciate you demeaning other posters with other opinions. You can make your claims without insults to others.

 

 

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