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Getting harder to find inventory.

Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.

 

I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.

 

When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.

 

Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.

 

You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.

 

A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.

 

When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.

Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.

 

That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone.  I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.

 

For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.

But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.

 

Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically  sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.

 

Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly  63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.

As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.

 

The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.

 

Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.

 

So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

@prescott4 wrote:

@moo*cow*corner wrote:

There are a few thrifts in my area where the staff KNOWS I'm a reseller. There have been times where they have practically tried to put stuff in my cart for me. They smile when my cart is piled high. And merrily offer a discount at the register. I'm buying stuff that no one in my area wants at the price they are asking!

I don't talk about it much, but I'm disabled. I'd definitely qualify for some form of disability assistance. I won't do it until I physically can't even do ebay anymore. I'm one of those who just want the gov't to leave me the heck alone (as long as I pay my taxes of course). Even if they are offering me money. There are others who need it way worse than I.

Not your job to judge any one who's on assistance for ANY reason. You have no clue who's being lazy and who's not. I don't judge these poor people because I've been there. Still poor by most standards. We get by, we pay our bills and we're happy.

Your lack of empathy for those you see as beneath you is telling. By punishing any agency, you are also punishing the people they serve. If you are ok with that, cool enough.

I suppose you'd be happier if the Salvation Army food trucks passed out used clothing and tchotchkes instead of hot meals to disaster workers and Lunchables to children in poverty-stricken neighborhoods? Sally Ann has many other great programs. Programs that run on cash, not used consumer goods. I buy in their thrifts every chance I get.


No, she would be happier if everyone had to prove that they need the assistance first.  Then she would expect new items, but not brand name, passed out because god forbid, some one get a used designer item, because those are just status symbols.


You are just jumbling up everything I am saying, throwi g it against the wall and hoping it will stick.

 

Yes, like the poster below said, there her thrift has a voucher system to show need.

 

As far as what is passed out, I said I prefer new items, and was never interested in designer ones.  

Some women enjoy the $500 designer named bag.  As long as all my stuff fits in there, it is a utility object for me.

 

As far as what is handed out to the poor, someone mentioned that at one time Good Will did not accept anything but new items in a box.  And they would not do that.  I said I would not mind at all as long as these items were going to those intended.


You said in your own words "people here will readily admit they do not want a 9 to 5 job".

 

Which is a direct slap in the face to the millions of people who work for themselves.

 


You have got to be kidding me.  A 9 to 5 job.  Where did I say it had to be for someone else - that it could not mean being self employed.

 

Now you are really reaching.

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

I think this thread has gotten off topic. Maybe Emerald has had enough flogging and we can move back to the downfall of collectibles as inventory etc.

 


Thank you, but I can hold my own.

 

All respectful posts will be replied to.

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I didn't say that for your benefit. We had a productive thread going on and I would like to see more discussion about the topic at hand before the mods come in and delete the whole thing.

 

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I have no problem FINDING inventory. What I'm finding is that it's much harder to source that inventory for a price that still makes it worth while. I get most of my inventory from local online auctions, and in the past few years there are bidders driving the prices up so high that it takes all the profit away. I have to keep my eye out for "sleeper" lots. I find my best items hidden in lots that don't show all of what's included.

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Hello everyone,

 

This thread is getting a bit heated.  Please remember that it’s fine to disagree with others, but discussion should always remain courteous and respectful and on the topic instead of about each other.  (please remember: Community Guidelines)

 

Thank you for your cooperation.

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@18704d wrote:

 

"But if you have a car, and a computer and an Iphone and a roof over your head and bragging about your conquests at the thrifts ....."

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None of the above proves that someone is not poor.

 

Everyone needs a car, and an eBay-able computer can be bought for 50.00 or less used.

And a smart phone?  (no I don't have an iPhone)

 

I was a flip phone person until a year or so ago.  The hinge broke

I went into Verizon and found I had two options.

A) Pay 5 dollars a month for a new, comparable flip phone

B) Pay 7 dollars a month for a new smart phone.

Either way, our family's plan had charges for data, whether we used it, or not.

 

fwiw,

Thanks again for listening,

Lynn


FWIW.....In California )and I'm sure in other states since its a federal program IIRC), an iphone can be purchased for $20 at the welfare office (department of social services is what is called here), its through the Obama phone people I think. Not sure what the program is actually called. So I don't think an iphone is a good indicator of one's financial status. An Iphone X is side-eye worthy IMO if you are going around claiming to be broke but then again maybe its financed?



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@missjen831 wrote:

@18704d wrote:

 

"But if you have a car, and a computer and an Iphone and a roof over your head and bragging about your conquests at the thrifts ....."

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None of the above proves that someone is not poor.

 

Everyone needs a car, and an eBay-able computer can be bought for 50.00 or less used.

And a smart phone?  (no I don't have an iPhone)

 

I was a flip phone person until a year or so ago.  The hinge broke

I went into Verizon and found I had two options.

A) Pay 5 dollars a month for a new, comparable flip phone

B) Pay 7 dollars a month for a new smart phone.

Either way, our family's plan had charges for data, whether we used it, or not.

 

fwiw,

Thanks again for listening,

Lynn


FWIW.....In California )and I'm sure in other states since its a federal program IIRC), an iphone can be purchased for $20 at the welfare office (department of social services is what is called here), its through the Obama phone people I think. Not sure what the program is actually called. So I don't think an iphone is a good indicator of one's financial status. An Iphone X is side-eye worthy IMO if you are going around claiming to be broke but then again maybe its financed?


The rich always make some excuse for why the poor is poor. The blinders are very thick when one is born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I've seen people heckle someone for using a food stamp card because they had a "very expensive purse", when in reality they bought it online as a knock-off for $20. It isn't possible for everyone in this country to be rich. For starters, there simply isn't enough money in existance to make everyone a millionaire. Some people who live a very lavish lifestyle are in debt up to their eyeyballs. They have $60,000 in credit card debt, so in reality, the person with $2,000 in their savings account that drives a 1989 Honda Accord that's paid for is richer than them. If you have debt, subtract it from have much you have in assets, if it's a negative number, then you are probably poorer than most of the poor. Debt is not an asset. Debt is DEBT. It's not your stuff, sure you paid for it with a credit card, but in reality your wearing and driving and living in things provided to you by the bank, at an expense called interest.

 

Every year, thousands of people lose their job and then complain that they can't make the credit card payments for their $200 pair of jeans, $200 pair of sunglasses, $400 pair of shoes, etc.

 

Most people need to live below their means, but can't due to vanity. They want to impress other people. If people only "like you" because you have expensive tastes, they aren't your friends, they are just worshipers of the dollar bill. But there is still an ill perceived notion in this country that the "poor are icky". If you think I am blowing smoke, go into a bank wearing tattered clothes, and then go in to another bank wearing a suit and tie and see how differently you will be treated.

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@emerald40 wrote:

@18704d wrote:

 

"Big differene between resellers getting their merchandise from yard sales and flea markets then from the donated merchandise to a thrfit that is supposed to be used to support the poor"

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You've never understood this in the last 4 comparable threads here.

 

The POOR frequently buy at thrifts and sell online to Pay Their Bills

and Keep Food On Their Table.

 

When there are No Jobs around.. this is the best way

for the Poor to Create their own badly needed income.

 

All my best,

as always,

Lynn


Never understood or simply do not agree with that assessment based on  threads here of sellers who frequent the thrifts here and based on their postings do not seem in dire needs.

 

Some here do not want to work.  Their business, but not who I want my donations to go to.


In case you hadn't noticed - selling on eBay IS work

 

Sheesh


"If a product doesn't sell, raise the price" - Reese Palley
"If it sold FAST, it was priced too low" - also Reese Palley
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@quadcitypickers wrote:

@missjen831 wrote:

@18704d wrote:

 

"But if you have a car, and a computer and an Iphone and a roof over your head and bragging about your conquests at the thrifts ....."

-----------------

 

None of the above proves that someone is not poor.

 

Everyone needs a car, and an eBay-able computer can be bought for 50.00 or less used.

And a smart phone?  (no I don't have an iPhone)

 

I was a flip phone person until a year or so ago.  The hinge broke

I went into Verizon and found I had two options.

A) Pay 5 dollars a month for a new, comparable flip phone

B) Pay 7 dollars a month for a new smart phone.

Either way, our family's plan had charges for data, whether we used it, or not.

 

fwiw,

Thanks again for listening,

Lynn


FWIW.....In California )and I'm sure in other states since its a federal program IIRC), an iphone can be purchased for $20 at the welfare office (department of social services is what is called here), its through the Obama phone people I think. Not sure what the program is actually called. So I don't think an iphone is a good indicator of one's financial status. An Iphone X is side-eye worthy IMO if you are going around claiming to be broke but then again maybe its financed?


The rich always make some excuse for why the poor is poor. The blinders are very thick when one is born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I've seen people heckle someone for using a food stamp card because they had a "very expensive purse", when in reality they bought it online as a knock-off for $20. It isn't possible for everyone in this country to be rich. For starters, there simply isn't enough money in existance to make everyone a millionaire. Some people who live a very lavish lifestyle are in debt up to their eyeyballs. They have $60,000 in credit card debt, so in reality, the person with $2,000 in their savings account that drives a 1989 Honda Accord that's paid for is richer than them. If you have debt, subtract it from have much you have in assets, if it's a negative number, then you are probably poorer than most of the poor. Debt is not an asset. Debt is DEBT. It's not your stuff, sure you paid for it with a credit card, but in reality your wearing and driving and living in things provided to you by the bank, at an expense called interest.

 

Every year, thousands of people lose their job and then complain that they can't make the credit card payments for their $200 pair of jeans, $200 pair of sunglasses, $400 pair of shoes, etc.

 

Most people need to live below their means, but can't due to vanity. They want to impress other people. If people only "like you" because you have expensive tastes, they aren't your friends, they are just worshipers of the dollar bill. But there is still an ill perceived notion in this country that the "poor are icky". If you think I am blowing smoke, go into a bank wearing tattered clothes, and then go in to another bank wearing a suit and tie and see how differently you will be treated.


Wish we could give more than just 1 kudo


"If a product doesn't sell, raise the price" - Reese Palley
"If it sold FAST, it was priced too low" - also Reese Palley
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@hioctane62 wrote:

I have no problem FINDING inventory. What I'm finding is that it's much harder to source that inventory for a price that still makes it worth while. I get most of my inventory from local online auctions, and in the past few years there are bidders driving the prices up so high that it takes all the profit away. I have to keep my eye out for "sleeper" lots. I find my best items hidden in lots that don't show all of what's included.


i agree...

i have no problem finding inventory.

the inventory that sold years ago NO longer sells today.

but it is still out there to be bought.

thrift shops, fleamarkets have become too expensive.

found nothing at the flea last week; NOTHING.

i saw plenty NA silver jewelry.

could have just bought it all for a fraction of the price on ebay.

these days 1's best bet are auctions, whole estates...

buying individually has become too tedious and time consuming.

these days are over.

 

letoulousain
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Just think about all those products, clothing, etc coming from China, Vietnam, Bangladesh and their countries and how they were delivered to the US. You don't want to know what they've been exposed to.
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"Most people need to live below their means, but can't due to vanity. They want to impress other people. If people only "like you" because you have expensive tastes, they aren't your friends, they are just worshipers of the dollar bill. But there is still an ill perceived notion in this country that the "poor are icky". If you think I am blowing smoke, go into a bank wearing tattered clothes, and then go in to another bank wearing a suit and tie and see how differently you will be treated."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This statement is absolute truth.  True story:  Back in the 1960's, a famous Canadian (I'm from Canada) musician walked into a high end car dealership dressed very casually, not like a bum, but not suit/tie kind of deal.  Long hair, trademark beard.  He was carrying a tattered gym bag.  Walked up to a car salesman and said that he wanted to buy the top of the line Cadillac on the showroom floor.  The salesman laughed at him, and they threw him out.  He decided to go to another dealership and bought the car of his dreams.  That dirty gym bag was filled with cash, and that "bum" was the musician Rompin' Ronnie Hawkins, who was also friends with John Lennon and Yoko Ono (who stayed at Ronnie's whenever they visited here).  Ronnie was famous, but didn't dress the part or have the attitude, and was often mistaken for a bum.  I learned a LONG time ago never to judge a book by it's cover.  The richest people I know, and I know some extremely filthy rich people, are the cheapest and hide the fact that they are wealthy.    I also volunteer at a homeless shelter, and many of our street people wear designer lables because the clothes are donated.  If you only look at the "cover", you miss what's inside, and that's what counts!  Our local food bank delivers food baskets to famililes who live in palatial homes because the folks inside are broke, in debt, and have sold all their belongings just to keep paying the interest on that debt, and cannot even afford food.  As said, outward appearances mean nothing.

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As an add on to my previous statement, to make sure that the poor and "needy" folks get what they need, I donate really great stuff to local charities that provide these items at no cost to the needy, as it should be...NO COST.  We have lots of charities like that in our area.  Because of this, I do not feel guilty about scrounging for inventory in thrift stores.  The poor in our area get treated well and people donate generously to help them.  And the Mission Thrift stores love eBayer's who empty their shelves and fill their carts because they make a lot of money off of us, so they can keep doing what they do.  (The needy folks aren't shopping for tchotchkes and collectibles anyway)

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My personal experience with "Flipping"...is time, yes TIME. I am 58 years old, if you buy something...hold on to it for a while. After a few years...you can sell a 5 dollar swapmeet Item for 100 dollars on CL ( I just did last week). If your mindset is instant profit...within a few days...well good luck to you.
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@emerald40 wrote:

@quadcitypickers wrote:

@emerald40 wrote:

You nailed it.  Agree 1,00,000 per cent.

It is why I stopped donating to good will.  My intention was for it to help the poor not fund someone's ebay business.

So glad to hear they are finally maximizing profit.


Actually if you read into many of these so-called "charities", many of them use a measly 10 cents on every dollar donated for an actual cause.

 

Also..personally I never went to thrift stores trying to make money on things the poor actually need, like shoes, clothing, etc. I always looked for antiques and collectibles.


Yes, but the antiques and collectibles were donated on the premise that the thrift would maximize -profit so that the money could be used to help the poor.


Except Goodwill is a for profit corporation, meaning the antiques and collectibles are actually funding the payment on the CEO's yacht.

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