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Getting harder to find inventory.

Like many of us, I go to yard sales, estate sales, estate auctions, flea markets, and occasionally second hand stores to source my inventory.

 

I am in my mid twenties and have been "flipping" since I was 13, taking after my father, who is "old school" and doesn't really do eBay, he sets up at flea markets.

 

When I first started going to auctions with my father, when I was about 8 or 9, he used to come home with an entire truckfull of stuff, not just junk, good quality stuff he could often double if not triple what he paid for it.

 

Fast forward a few years later and these TV shows like American Pickers, Pawnstars, Storage wars, etc put a huge wrench into the works.

 

You had people going out trying to earn a living and had little idea what they were doing. They followed TV, but let's be honest..TV is far from reality.

 

A lot of people who had been going to auctions beforehand could be narrowed into two groups: antique dealers and part-time eBay sellers. Part-time sellers had regular jobs, so they didn't buy as much stuff, they didn't have as much time to list things. Antique dealers bought well...antiques...so this left a huge list of things to make money on. Computers, electronics, trading cards, etc.

 

When the economy crashed in 2008, it become worse, because you had people literally trying to earn a living selling on eBay. Now granted, their were "full timers" beforehand, but not nearly as many.

Getting back to a "wrench in the works"...these people were desperate to earn a buck, and soon it became harder to make any money. To them, it was either buy a $100 item for 85 bucks and make $15, or go home broke, so profit margins soon started to evaporate.

 

That is when I received a huge upper-hand...a smartphone.  I was one of the first people to have one that went to auctions and other events. It was 2010 and I became old enough to start selling on my own. The "low-hanging fruit" things like old toys, antiques, etc always went for more than it was worth messing with. I started looking at the odd and unusual. Stuff I had never seen before. Often, it was as easy as typing model numbers in. I remember buying some kind of computer for a John Deere combine. I got it for $5, I sold it in 3 days for $950. Then a week later, got a $500 widget for $20.

 

For the next 3 years, I quit working. I could turn more in a week than I could working a crummy dead-end minimum-wage job. I was hooked.

But that ended pretty soon. About 2 years ago. While the smartphone giveth, the smartphone although taketh away. I used to do quite well at estate sales with unusual stuff. If they couldn't find in in 5 minutes on eBay, they used to give up. But now they could just whip out their smartphone and can find it.

 

Estate sales became an utter joke. They idiotically never realized selling something in front of 100 people is a lot harder than when you have 100 million buyers. People aren't going to stand in line an hour, and give eBay prices or more. Of course...the next day when everything was half off, all the "good stuff" magically  sold. Imagine that. The truth was.. the estate sale companies had their own eBay.

 

Auctions have become worse too. I live in the Midwest and you have retired farmers, ranch hands, etc with money coming out of their ears. Supposedly  63% of Americans can't come up with $500 in cash if their life depended on it, buy boy..you sure as heck would think otherwise at an auction.

As a matter of fact...of the past 12 auctions I've been too...I could buy stuff on eBay and sell it at an auction and make money, if they didn't charge 35-40% in fees.

 

The weird thing is....if you ask one of these people who didn't win the bid on something at a local auction if they would like to buy one you have, they won't. You would not believe how many times I've seen two old people run each other up to $100 on something, and I ask the non-winning bidder "Hey, I have one for $50, wanna buy it?" I have had this happen countless times, never had someone take me up on it.

 

Anyway..times are a changin'. Good quality estate auctions and estate sales that aren't insanely price are getting harder to find. People my age don't really collect stuff, and while I'm sure it's a generational thing, people my age range don't really have the money to collect things, and beyond that, so many people have collected stuff in the 70's and 80's, it will be a long time before that stuff becomes super-valueable. Try getting money out of a 1987 box of baseball cards. 30 years old and worth didly squat.

 

So in the next 20 years....a lot of people who collect will be dead. Just look at the market on a lot of stuff between the past 20 years. Stuff that was worth $500 in the 90's MIGHT sell for $50 today. Porcelain, glass and china took a huge hit along with other categories.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future of flipping holds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

But often times buyers cannot buy the items, it all goes to resellers like the Target fiascos. It doesn't make the original company any more money to create outrageous demand that cannot be met.

 

Buying a D&B purse is hardly the kind of thing people would show off and boast about. Maybe if it were Coach or LV or something. I wanted the D&B purse because it has Alice in Wonderland on it because that is a happy part of my childhood. Most people I know wouldn't give a rat's butt about me having that purse.

 

The companies are killing their own marketplace. They will come to regret it.

 


You buy here to resell, you talk about that quite often. Now you are on the other end and the buyer who doesn't like the mark-up in price. 

So take your profits from what you resell and go buy the purse. You're never going to like the price, but perhaps neither do your buyers who don't get something for nothing. 

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

Comparing Dooney to Louboutin is odd. Louboutin is far more expensive and shoes are easier to destroy. 


I thought about that after I hit "post" ... I went with D&B because it was in the previous post LOL.

 

Then again, I'm not a fashionista ... you can barely get me to wear anything but sweats and (non designer) jeans and a tee LOL

penguins_dont_fly is a Volunteer Community Mentor
Buying and Selling since 2013

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I buy vintage items to resell. I don't buy new. Apples and oranges. My buyers don't shop Ebay so they're very happy to find the items I sell. Ebay sellers are happy because I bid and buy their items and therefore they get more money than they would have otherwise.

 

It's a win/win. 

 

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For what it's worth I never lowball sellers when I buy for resale. I'm not comfortable taking money out of someone else's pocket to put it in mine. I'm dumb I admit but it's important to me that people can come here and sell items for what they want for them. I bid or I use the BIN.

 

If I'm buying used clothes for my family then I will make offers. 

 

I understand why the sellers do what they do, buying limited items for more money. I've argued in the past people should have the right to do it. What I don't agree with is why the manufacturers lose potential profits and annoy their buyers by limiting supply.

 

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@rolenboy01 wrote:

@coolections wrote:

@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.


I have to admit that one was a bit hard for me to swallow as well, I've saw some crazy stuff being thrown out but this would definately take the cake, I come from a family of undiagnosed horders on both sides so what do I know, I know plenty of people that throw stuff out without a second thought and I still couldn't see them throwing out a Rolex.


It might be tough to swallow, but it happens more often than you think. 

 

 

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While were at it, do some people here never find certain things at auctions or estate sales?

 

Ever been to auctions or estate sales where they sell pretty much everything the person owned? I mean everything. I have been to some where they sold boxes of bank statements the person had!

 

Despite this, for whatever reason, and despite the fact I attended over 100 estate sales and auctions last year, I never once found:

 

-High End Vintage 1960's 1970's audio equipment.  Records out the ears, yes. A vintage tube amp or a McIntosh amp? Never saw one.

 

-Expensive golf clubs. Never seen a set, once. Always see basketballs, tennis rackets, etc, but no $1000 set of clubs.

 

 

 

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I never find anything useful here at yard or estate sales. I never see great vintage Christmas or linens. I mostly see used children's clothes/toys and furniture. I stopped going to sales because they were always disappointing.

 

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@quadcitypickers wrote:

While were at it, do some people here never find certain things at auctions or estate sales?

 

Ever been to auctions or estate sales where they sell pretty much everything the person owned? I mean everything. I have been to some where they sold boxes of bank statements the person had!

 

Despite this, for whatever reason, and despite the fact I attended over 100 estate sales and auctions last year, I never once found:

 

-High End Vintage 1960's 1970's audio equipment.  Records out the ears, yes. A vintage tube amp or a McIntosh amp? Never saw one.

 

-Expensive golf clubs. Never seen a set, once. Always see basketballs, tennis rackets, etc, but no $1000 set of clubs.

 

 

 


Lots of them. I don't sell them here anymore, though.

 

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@coolections wrote:

@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.


While it is hard to believe and I am envious that I didn't find it, it does happen.

 

Back in the 80s I picked up a friend at her mother's house and there was a glass door china cupboard filled to the brim with Fiestaware Medium Green dishes.  I was awestruck as I collect Fiesta and had never seen so much medium green in one place and had never seen some pieces for sale.  My friend said it had been her grandmothers daily dishes and passed on to her mom.

 

About a year later I went with my friend to pick something up at her mothers house and the cupboard and dishes were gone.  I asked what happened to them, and she told me that her mother had gotten tired of them and threw them out.  I was horrified and asked if she didn't mean her mom sold them as they were quite valuable.  Nope, they were the cheap dishes and they got tossed in the dumpster when her mom redecorated the kitchen.  I mourn every time I pass the neighborhood.

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@rolenboy01 wrote:

@coolections wrote:

@futurespast1113

Sorry you may not like it, but being blunt, I find your story hard to believe. Even if you are not an Ebay seller or a young person anyone could easily see a Rolex watch, WWII items and antiques and know not to just throw the stuff away without at least checking it out. A whole family and no one noticed a thing and thought is was junk . LOL. If true, that is a one in a million find.


I have to admit that one was a bit hard for me to swallow as well, I've saw some crazy stuff being thrown out but this would definately take the cake, I come from a family of undiagnosed horders on both sides so what do I know, I know plenty of people that throw stuff out without a second thought and I still couldn't see them throwing out a Rolex.


I cam from a home that if you stood still in one place too long, you could be thrown out.

 

Seriously, my mom was the type that if it served no purpose, it was clutter, and out it went.

 

She had some beautiful jewelry - sterling silver charm bracelet - gold and diamond pieces.  After she suffered a stroke and went to a nursing home, I went to her apartment to clear things out.  And it was all gone.

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

Re: the 1980s card companies got greedy.

 

Um, they have to maximize profits just like any other company. They're no more greedy for making extra cards than you are for wishing they made fewer cards. Their consideration should have been (and was) for their current market, not for future generations to make a profit from.

 

See this is what really annoys me now about things I want to buy. Toy Story Vans, Dooney and Burke Disney purses. Why do they limit production? These limited things sell to sellers who resell for x times the original price. These companies are not making their buyers happy, they are making scalpers happy. I don't get it.

 


Do you think back in the day Beanie Babies would have been the sensation it was if not for scarcity?

 

Not sure if for them it was accidental, but now manufacturers do it on purpose.

 

One wants more what one cannot find.

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Also consider the other side of the equation.  It is hard to predict the market.  How many animated kids movies do they produce a whole world of toys for then the movie is a dud or just nobody wants the toys?  And then you are STUCK with a warehouse of plastic that will not only NEVER become collectibles but will never even sell to make back enough to pay for the plastic it took to make them!!

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While were at it, do some people here never find certain things at auctions or estate sales?

 

Ever been to auctions or estate sales where they sell pretty much everything the person owned? I mean everything. I have been to some where they sold boxes of bank statements the person had!

 

Despite this, for whatever reason, and despite the fact I attended over 100 estate sales and auctions last year, I never once found:

 

-High End Vintage 1960's 1970's audio equipment.  Records out the ears, yes. A vintage tube amp or a McIntosh amp? Never saw one.

 

-Expensive golf clubs. Never seen a set, once. Always see basketballs, tennis rackets, etc, but no $1000 set of clubs.

 

 

 


It could be those things were tossed/donated/yard sold years ago when the family bought the latest and greatest.  Most people don't save any perfectly functioning stuff when they buy an upgrade.  If that were true, I'd be swimming in old TV sets and stereo equipment.  As soon as I bought new, the old one was sent to the dump.

 

Ick factor aside, the real treasures are buried in landfills.




Joe

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@rixstuff wrote:

Also consider the other side of the equation.  It is hard to predict the market.  How many animated kids movies do they produce a whole world of toys for then the movie is a dud or just nobody wants the toys?  And then you are STUCK with a warehouse of plastic that will not only NEVER become collectibles but will never even sell to make back enough to pay for the plastic it took to make them!!


Very true.  But some of those box office disaster toys eventually do become quite collectible.  A not so recent examples are the toys from Dune.  The movie flopped (at first) so nobody wanted the toys.  Fast foward a couple of decades and they sell for quite a bit.

 

Back in the 60s, Ideal made an action figure called (oddly enough) Captain Action.  Similar to GI Joe but the hook was the dozen or so licensed superhero costumes available for him (Superman, Batman, etc).  The rare ones like Spiderman and Green Hornet bring in quite a bit of cash.

 

Wanting to bring in the girl's market, they produced a series of Super Queens.  Batgirl, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, and Mera (Aquaman's wife).  Like the GI Joe nurse doll, they were a complete failure.  Theoretically they should have flown off the shelves except girls didn't want anything other than Barbie or Tammy and boys didn't want a girl doll.  Since the production was very limited, they fetch huge prices whenever they surface.

 

It takes a long time for duds to reach collector status.  But when they do...

 

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Joe

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Yep, reminds me of the et. atari game that was originally a flop and they just dumped and buried them.  Now they are collectible. Wife's daughter had one but no one knows what happened to it over the years. 

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