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Getting Tired of eBay Controlling My Sales Numbers, How About You?

 

 

I Just posted this statement before deciding it needed it's own thread. I know I'm not the only seller that is consonantly experiencing eBay holding back our sales numbers for some unknown reason. As a buyer I have also experienced how eBay blocks me from not only purchasing an item, but also opening another sellers listing or hiding them from me completely as stated in an older post to Griff:

 

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Current-Feedback-Test/m-p/23943165#M509512

 

I tried to boost sales using items guaranteed to sell. Example: I have multiple accounts and Recently I was adding more and more inventory to each account per day, however sales stayed the same per week and the total value of sales stayed within it's regular range. I decided to see what would happen if I listed a bunch of rare Salesman Sample Near Mint Pin up Calendars from the 1930's, so I listed about 5 per day and They did really well for sale numbers and OK on ended price. The result was that it pushed me above my normal sales level on both price and number of items sold for the month.

Here's the big issue... None of my regular inventory sold and even through I added some more Pin-ups and some very rare Near Mint Maxfield Parrish Calendars, and an Over sized Calendar "Our Gang" (Little Rascals) one from the 1930's for my next round, all my sales, on all my accounts have stopped since the 9th of this month and that's pushing me back toward my normal monthly range now.

 

If that isn't eBay controlling my accounts and what buyers see or can access, than I have the intelligence level of an Ameba. So here's my theory: eBay blocks sales for a number of reasons...

 

1. To use our better listings as bait for their sponsored ad portals to earn larger commissions from off site sales. ( I also       wonder if they are practicing "cookie stuffing" too inflate those profits). 

 

2. Bandwidth restrictions to enable eBay to cater to the Big Box sellers and Large Chinese sellers.

 

3. Trying to spread the wealth among the small sellers due to a limited amount of buyers.

 

That's main part of my theory list what's yours?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm trying an experiment in my store. Yesterday, I put almost everything in it on sale for 50% off. A handful are 10% off, and I missed a few when adding listings to the sale, but I'd say a good 85% are now half off. Results so far? Virtually no views. One small sale. It does seem peculiar. Thank God, finally have some other work in RL.

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I also did a big sale with all my accounts the other day and it hasn't produced any sales yet either.

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Buyers can not see the items. eBay hides them. The Question is ??? On Purpose Or Is the Site Such a Mess They Can Not Fix It..

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Or it's summer and few are buying online as outdoor events start. Swap meets are blooming
age is a measure of time , wisdom is the measure of how we used that time
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This is their site, OF COURSE they are controlling what gets seen! They have their so-called rules about duplicate listings, not using the same pictures in multiple listings, etc. but I certainly don't see them enforcing them...

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For over a year I got consistantly between $300 and $450 in sales a month.  But May has been a downer.  But since I treat ebay like the secondary dumping site it so obviously wants to be, I am setting up at more real world shows this summer and my sales on other sites are doing well.

 

I am not going to have sales when ebay isn't bothering to show my listings to anyone.  It smacks of desperation.  I'm just going to ride it out for 6 months until ebay gets around to changing things up again and things should get back to normal.

(*Bleep*)
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@retrose1 wrote:

For over a year I got consistantly between $300 and $450 in sales a month.  But May has been a downer.  But since I treat ebay like the secondary dumping site it so obviously wants to be, I am setting up at more real world shows this summer and my sales on other sites are doing well.

 

I am not going to have sales when ebay isn't bothering to show my listings to anyone.  It smacks of desperation.  I'm just going to ride it out for 6 months until ebay gets around to changing things up again and things should get back to normal.


I used to consistantly get about $1000 per month in sales - even during the ugly economic times! It was good because I had a lame day job and this side gig paid bills and bought a new car. Now with all of their manipulation, forget it. I have since got a much better day job so I don't put much effort into this site anymore and am getting better feels via social media anyway. Not holding my breath for any improvements so I'm working on my own website.

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Oh boy, another conspiracy theory thread.  Ebay is hiding my listings, ebay is controlling my sales nembers,  ebay is forcing out small sellers, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is always about what ebay is doing - never what the seller is selling,  increased ecommerce competition in general, the season of the year, etc etc etc.    

 

Where else are expectations of success based on the good ole days so high??    Where else do sellers expect the same results from smiliar inventory month after monthy -  year after year??    Thank heavens most ebay sellers aren't trying to run a brick and mortar store with a lot of overhead the same way they run an ebay  "business". 

 

Do I believe that ebay's search is currently an unlevel playing field - yes.    Exactly how and to what extent - I don't know.  But at the same time I know that ebay fixed price items are not getting the same exposure in google as they once did - especially if a seller lists the same item on multiple venues that submits google feeds.    

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@kathieskorner wrote:

Oh boy, another conspiracy theory thread.  Ebay is hiding my listings, ebay is controlling my sales nembers,  ebay is forcing out small sellers, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is always about what ebay is doing - never what the seller is selling,  increased ecommerce competition in general, the season of the year, etc etc etc.    

 

Where else are expectations of success based on the good ole days so high??    Where else do sellers expect the same results from smiliar inventory month after monthy -  year after year??    Thank heavens most ebay sellers aren't trying to run a brick and mortar store with a lot of overhead the same way they run an ebay  "business". 

 

Do I believe that ebay's search is currently an unlevel playing field - yes.    Exactly how and to what extent - I don't know.  But at the same time I know that ebay fixed price items are not getting the same exposure in google as they once did - especially if a seller lists the same item on multiple venues that submits google feeds.    


We were all just waiting for the cheerleader to come along...

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@miyasamaco wrote:

@kathieskorner wrote:

Oh boy, another conspiracy theory thread.  Ebay is hiding my listings, ebay is controlling my sales nembers,  ebay is forcing out small sellers, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is always about what ebay is doing - never what the seller is selling,  increased ecommerce competition in general, the season of the year, etc etc etc.    

 

Where else are expectations of success based on the good ole days so high??    Where else do sellers expect the same results from smiliar inventory month after monthy -  year after year??    Thank heavens most ebay sellers aren't trying to run a brick and mortar store with a lot of overhead the same way they run an ebay  "business". 

 

Do I believe that ebay's search is currently an unlevel playing field - yes.    Exactly how and to what extent - I don't know.  But at the same time I know that ebay fixed price items are not getting the same exposure in google as they once did - especially if a seller lists the same item on multiple venues that submits google feeds.    


We were all just waiting for the cheerleader to come along...


I've alwas wondered what they get, is it monetary, better placement, or just the pure pleasure of ridiculing others.

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@mongoose26 wrote:

@miyasamaco wrote:

@kathieskorner wrote:

Oh boy, another conspiracy theory thread.  Ebay is hiding my listings, ebay is controlling my sales nembers,  ebay is forcing out small sellers, etc. etc. etc.

 

It is always about what ebay is doing - never what the seller is selling,  increased ecommerce competition in general, the season of the year, etc etc etc.    

 

Where else are expectations of success based on the good ole days so high??    Where else do sellers expect the same results from smiliar inventory month after monthy -  year after year??    Thank heavens most ebay sellers aren't trying to run a brick and mortar store with a lot of overhead the same way they run an ebay  "business". 

 

Do I believe that ebay's search is currently an unlevel playing field - yes.    Exactly how and to what extent - I don't know.  But at the same time I know that ebay fixed price items are not getting the same exposure in google as they once did - especially if a seller lists the same item on multiple venues that submits google feeds.    


We were all just waiting for the cheerleader to come along...


I've alwas wondered what they get, is it monetary, better placement, or just the pure pleasure of ridiculing others.


 

Maybe they just wonder what business strategies some other sellers here utilize that result in such poor sell-through-rates that there is such dismay from some.

 

I know of sellers who continue to put up listings for old tired inventory that just isn't very popular anymore, for example.  They don't get nearly the sales on their stuff that they had experienced a few years ago when their choice of 'stuff' was hot... and now, it's not.  But they're still trying to push it, and angry at eBay because they aren't getting the sales anymore.  And yet, they aren't branching out.  They remain determined to put up their same old stuff.  It's their business decision.

 

I know sellers who have lingered and lingered and lingered here, making just enough profit to keep feeling they were close to 'breaking through' into turning this into a Real Business, but when you find out how much they are paying to procure their inventory, you know they're going to be lucky to ever turn the kind of profit they'll need to feel successful.  And yet, they aren't willing to spend the hours and hours and days it takes to hunt down new sources of product that can be purchased low enough to flip here to do well.

 

There are sellers who want to sell more, but their stores aren't stocked with very many items.  If their store was an actual brick & mortar shop and I walked in the front door and saw their inventory spread out on the shelves, I'd think they must be going out of business.  Many have fewer than 100 items for sale.  Many others don't have a whole lot more.  They just aren't positioned for much success. 

 

Others have very little variety.  They're like a specialty store, which is all well-and-good.. but it sure cuts down on the customers who will be interested in what you have to sell. 

 

Some sellers are... expensive.  When you compare their items with the same offerings of other sellers, they are always among the most expensive, so when you look at the solds of those items, there are sales happening, but it's the other sellers who don't price quite so high that are getting the sales.

 

So, a bazillion reasons, and more.  Some just don't do well here.  Some put food on their tables and take the kids to Disneyland each summer. 

 

Even the complaints of eBay *hiding* listings so they can't be seen is questionable.  I've tried over and over to NOT see somebody's listings, but they nearly always come up in search.  The worst thing is when the seller is listing things that have a LOT of competition, and there are several pages of similar listings... few buyers are going to browse down through everything to find the one at the bottom of page 3... or page 7!  I guess you could say the listings are hidden, but it's among the many, many other similar items that a search brings up.  Somebody gets to be first and on the front page, but that means others have to endure being buried further back.

 

Which brings up another matter, and one that I think causes a lot of the problems some have here.  There are now so MANY MANY MANY sellers on eBay, and so many millions of items.  We didn't used to have to be competing for buyer eyes with so many, nor did we have to be competing with the zillions of other online e-commerce sites, large and small, that sparkle and glitter out there and all compete for the buyer dollars these days.  It just isn't eBay anymore.  There's a LOT of competition out there off this site as well as among the sellers here, so you really have to be on top of the game to land the sales here and bring in the buyer dollars for yourself!

 

Always sorry to hear there are some folks who just have such a hard time here, but you need to understand that not everyone has it that hard being a seller on eBay.  So they aren't into the hatin' as much.

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We were all just waiting for the cheerleader to come along...

 

 

I've never been called an ebay cheerleader before - I've hated most of the changes made since JD came aboard.  But I have been in the business world long enough to recognize that all the problems sellers complain about on this site aren't ebay's fault anymore than little Johnny not doing his homework and failing a test is the fault of his school, his teacher, or his parent.    

 

Back in the early days of ebay - all we had to do was list items, and they would sell with little effort on the sellers part   That was the California Gold Rush of ebay's history - selling online today whether ebay or any other site takes far more effort and business savvy on the part of the seller to achieve continual success. 

 

I've sold books on Amazon almost as long as I've been on ebay - sales there today are only a fraction of what they were ten years ago, and now there are all these big sellers than sell items for less than $1.00 -  you even get to compete against the Amazon warehouse and Amazon Prime.   And their fees and return policies are even worse than ebay's - the difference may be in seller expectations. 

 

This Blame Ebay for all that isn't working is no different than Blame Bush or Blame the Republicans or Blame Obama that is prevalent in today's politics - we have to find someone to blame rather than take ANY responsibility for our own actions (or inactions). 

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2 Weeks ago events, season and weather didn't matter when I got the boost in print sales. Now everything has stopped across the board for me with all my accounts, and If what you say is affecting me is true...than it has to affect everyone else,and not just me. 

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I've only had a duplication problem with one of my accounts which I keep calling eBay about right when it happens. eBay claims its a glitch that they need to fix yet they haven't. When I relist a bunch of items using the bulk listing feature it deletes the listing after they are relisted and than adds some of them back to the next batch of items that end. The program is suppose to catch them if you try to relist anything with the same title, yet its not stopping all of them, only some of them. The system also lets them pass if there relisted in a different format.

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