GTC NO WAY OR OK

[buytodayshipnextday]

Here's your chance to voice your opinion. I'd appreciate it if before you describe why you dislike GTC you begin with NO WAY or if you're one of the very few who has no issue with it please start with OK. It just makes it easier to see what the percentage is.

[crownsfieldcellular]

NO WAY

This is a death blow for my business model.  I sell one off very high end (mostly) iPhones..My strategy that WORKED perfectly was always to use a 3 day BIN starting on Saturday Morning, and ending on Tuesday morning.  This was perfect because most of my buyers shop on the weekends, and the URGENCY that was created using the 3 day BIN was awesome, very powerful.

Now?  Thats completely dead.  This policy makes ABSOLUTELY no sense for sellers like me who sell one item at a TIME, and NEVER have repeat inventory, never.  GTC is good in my opinion if you have static inventory which you replenish on a constant basis, and its excellent for that kind of inventory.

With my business model and what I sell?  Using GTC is one of the worst decisions you can possibly make.  It's senseless, and it is the ANTI - THESIS to what I have to do to stay in business which is to TURN MY INVENTORY QUICKLY AND CONSTANTLY WEEKLY..

.GTC does the OPPOSITE OF THAT..It gives Buyers all the time in the world to make a decision, watch an item forever knowing its going to be there, and gives them no real incentive to take any action..

3 Day BIN auctions were awesome also, because they got the search boost of a new listing, and then very shortly after they went right to an "Ending Soon" boost..That was exactly what I needed and I was thriving as a result...This is the first week I am dealing with this IDIOTIC change, and I already see my sales #'s diving off a cliff..It's ridiculous..

This "update" totally wrecks the businesses of probably 25% of eBay sellers (only about 1.7 million sellers, thats all) who not only DO NOT benefit from GTC in any way, but actively HARMS THEIR BUSINESS...HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DESTROY IT

I see alot of people complaining about the possible added fees with the relisting, and the added work of ending all of their listings, etc.  They are missing the much larger picture here, which that now you CANNOT run a short term BIN auction, which is ESSENTIAL to selling certain products..

That time duration OPTION was there for a REASON..What is the sense of totally eliminating this and no longer giving sellers A CHOICE???

I know what works to sell my items eBay, you know how I can prove that?  Take a look at how much I have PAID you in FEES over the last 6 months...Wanna know how those fees got there?  Because I MADE SALES.  How did I make those sales?  By BEING GOOD AT WHAT I DO...AND BY KNOWING HOW TO RUN MY BUSINESS!!

Was it fun this week to get almost no fees from me because I didnt SELL ANYTHING??  Thanks to your new wonderful "update"?  Well it was equally as TERRIBLE FOR ME MAKING NO MONEY!!  Because I no longer have the very SIMPLE TOOLS that were THERE for 20 YEARS FOR A REASON!!! 

BECAUSE THEY WORKED!!!

YOU DONT IMPLEMENT A FORCED CHANGE LIKE THIS UNLESS IT HELPS EVERYONE!!!  75% OF SELLERS IS NOT EVERYONE!!  AND THAT 25% TRANSLATES INTO ALMOST 2 MILLION THAT YOU ARE KILLING HERE!!!

GIVE ME THE TOOLS BACK THAT I NEED TO RUN MY F$%KING BUSINESS AND MAKE US BOTH MONEY!!!

[div_style]

OK.  It's what I've been doing for years.

[dancer176cat]

NO WAY

I'm a small seller.  I sell my used clothing, most of which is designer and in excellent condition and sells for close to what I ask for.   I ALWAYS sell Fixed Price.  Now If I put a GTC, I get watchers but no one buys.  There is no time incentive for them to make a move.   Fixed Price Listings that have a 7 or 10 day duration give buyers a sense that they need to move before the listing expires.  It is human nature!   Psychologically, people act when there is a deadline.   If no deadline, they just wait and wait.    I tried GTC on a few of my listings and they still have not sold!  Even though they have multiple watchers!   So, now, my - the small seller of unique items - is screwed.  I don't expect to make money anymore on eBay.  

[slippinjimmy]

With Fixed Price there is ALWAYS an incentive to make a move as any one can come along at any time and buy it before you do.

Buyers are not stupid, they know that if an item ends unsold it will just get relisted and maybe even at a lower price.

[theshoppingmom2]

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@ms.rodriguez* wrote:

All of you folks that like GTC obviously have a store or very DEEEEEEEEEEP pockets.  I have 400 items now on 1 acct.  thanks to a recent big promo.  No way , do I want them to relist.  I am not going to get a store either.    It's a money grab.    Also I don't want an item that did not sell to relist at the same time.  I would rather hold it a few days and then if it didn't sell in an ad that ended at  8 am EST, I will relist it to end at a later time hoping to get a buyer that is looking for that item. 

I dont want folks to see an item relist and relist .   People will realize it and not even look to see what else you have  to sell.

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@ms.rodriguez*  question....what is keeping you from ending the listings? You can assign a day in the month to do it... like lets say  on the 15th of the month and relist again...

[theshoppingmom2]

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@domineone wrote:

But I don't want everything re-listing every month. I've found that using some simple investigative work allows me to get things listed when something is hot. I also like the idea of "hands-on" when items relist, to keep myself in check in case there's an error or something like that. I've never seen any advantage to simply relisting everything every month, been there, tried that. Either way, I believe you should be able to choose what fits better into your schedule. I'm currently unloading and getting ready to bail.

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@domineone  you have the option of ending the listing... so put it on your calendar and  end them . Once ended you can save them in a folder and relist them when ever  you think an item is Hot, keep watch of them for 29 days and end them if you want then .

[theshoppingmom2]

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@this*old*attic wrote:

That must be new(ish)? I’m guessing it happened during my 5 year gap?

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@this*old*attic 

yes and you can also  have them pick up if you have a return 🙂

[femmefan1946]

OK.

I got a Store as soon as they became available -- even before they were in Search.

I went to GTC, because it was less work and I had a full-time job.

I've occasionally done 30 day listings, usually of hard to sell products (my hard to sell might not be your hard to sell) and found no real difference in sales.

I rarely use all the "free" listings I can in any of my Stores, so automatic relisting after 30 days doesn't bother me.

I do review my About to Close listings daily and End those that have too many views.*  I keep those closed listings in my Unsold Items list until I see a promotion I can't resist.

That being said, if eBay wanted to solve the angst about 30 days listings and monthly freebies, they could change the monthly fees to 30 day fees. Simple.

* Because with Fixed Price listings, if the product and price don't end in a sale after 100 views, the chances of it selling are pretty low.

[this*old*attic]

Wow, I remember when stores weren’t included in search!

Nevertheless, I had one too. I’d auction items first, then pop what didn’t sell in the store - at the price I wanted/a higher price.

Sigh. I truly do miss auction activity. I never did let go of any of my inventory when I stopped for awhile, and I’m planning on getting serious once summer rolls around (after close to 20 years, I’d really like my garage and extra bedroom back!)... perhaps I’ll experiment with a few auctions once I have enough items up to feel like a legitimate presence on the site.

[mysalonsavings]

The solution to that is to start your listings after the first. Start them like on the 4th then you won't have to do anything for a long time.☺

[mysalonsavings]

Rofl . . . Anyone that is paying more than 50.00 a month in fees should, at minimum have a basic, if not premium store. A premium store is only 59.99 a month. Really. I am a very poor person. My pockets are so little a coin won't fit in one of them. Lol. I started my store as a premium store 6 months ago with 1000.00 of listings. In 6 month I have up'ed my listings to 23,000 in listings. I have not put anymore of my money into it I simply am letting it build itself. The store and items pay for themselves. I am hoping that someday I will have enough listings to make a paycheck from it. As of now after the initial investment I have not spent any money or made any money.
Sure there are bumps in the road but weather B&M or online there are going to be bumps.
I will say I sure wish things would settle down. I have a really good week and then dead sells. Hoping it evens out soon. 😏😚☺

[kpstore]

NO WAY

All eBay did was take the options away for the sellers. The GTC listing takes away any sense of urgency for the sale. I do not always relist for that exact reason. I also use this to manage my inventory.

NO WAY

[sher8512]

NO WAY!  I feel like Big Brother has come in to tell me how to run my auctions.  It should be my decision as to how many days I want to list an item with a BIN.  Right now I have 7 items listed GTC.  Zero activity!   I won't do it again!.  From now on I'm just doing regular auctions.  Another example of eBay dumping on sellers.  This is right up there with the decision to take away the option of sellers to give negative feedback.  Nothing like being held hostage.

Sherry

[myjunqueyourtreasure]

I'm getting good STR on the variation listings I did as GTC before this even started.

Only time will tell how most listings being GTC will affect visibility.

[njrtsr]

OK...

1) I have over 7000 listings and try to list at least 30 new items every day. I have no time for constant inventory juggling and I'm not about to relist 1/30 of all that every day.

2) And if those listings would expire, there would be lost sales in the downtime between when they would end and when I would relist.

3) I sort my inventory by date listed, and that's also how I determine what to put on sale. Without listing GTC I would have no idea how long I would have a particular item, or well how a particular group of listings performed, say a year or two out after the purchase.

4) Google is my friend. Some people find my listings by googling for old photos of their town. Without a constant listing those buyers would find expired items, even if they didn't sell.