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False targeting and report

I have spoken to two different people in trust and safety in regards to items being taken down which do not violate E-bay policy nor guidelines....either a fellow E-bayer or someone deep in trust and safety has targeted my account...let us not forgot the former head of e-bay trust and safety is currently spending 5 years behind

bars and was arrested by the FBI for cyberstalking a fellow E-bayer....

 

Both of the individuals in trust and safety said they would call me back and neither have done so...sending off messages to bots does not help either as there has been no response from sent messages...how does a individual on E-bay protect their account from false reports of violation of E-bay policy?

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I agree with you.

It's obvious to me that someone is out to get you.

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@1syndicate wrote:

What are careless words? If you are referring to Black Americana there are over 160000 items on E-bay with the same words....if bots were looking for listings with Black Americana how is there 160000 items for sale with those words?


I gather you're not into software engineering.  First logic place to active filter upon is new listings.  Code finds one questionable the account gets elevated for further scans across time.

 

Existing listings going to be treated completely different, likely periodic random scan and dont think eBay doesn't remove things.  They remove 241,000+ on average every day, seven days a week by robotic code.

 

 

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If there are 160000 listed items under Black Americana and none are taken down then there is obviously not a bot at work....there was nothing in the listing that warranted a bot or human to take it down...software engineering has nothing to do with it....just ask the couple who just won 3 million dollars from E-bay when 

trust and safety targeted them...or go ask James Baugh who is now serving a 5 year prison sentence for

cyberstalking and false targeting who was head of E-bay trust and safety....he even had E-bay legal fooled so I am aware there are bad seeds in E-bay targeting accounts

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Just spoke to a gal here in America with the trust and safety team....here response was any listing that has Black Americana in the heading will be scanned and looked at for racist or negative items in regards to race...there are multiple postcards under Black Americana where an alligator is present and they are still for sale and many have sold.....when I asked the gal about the postcard of a small black girl eating watermelon that recently sold and not taken down the phone went silent....uncomfortable silence....she then came back on the line and said eBay will look into the postcard sale..what are they going to look at when the listing was not taken down and the item sold...the reality is E-bay has become a political activist site and time to sell items on a different platform....

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Below is the policy covering Black Americana. As you can see, the wording is somewhat vague, and open to interpretation. For example,  who decides what is offensive or discriminatory?

 

Then one can see how some listings could get removed, and others not. The likely cause of this scattered practice is that the removal process is flawed and subjective, dependent on opinions of racism rather than a quantifiable measure. 

 

As a collectibles seller, i simply avoid listing Black Americana now on eBay. It has become too risky. 

Final thought—It does not prove a point, nor bolster one’s position, to argue that because others have been targeted before, then it follows that you must be, as well.


Using what other sellers are doing as a basis for one’s own listing choices, can place a selling account in jeopardy.  A seller who does so, leaves himself at the mercy of rationalization, and that does not guarantee safety, nor protect one’s selling account by any means.

 

It comes down to one thing: It does not matter what decisions another seller makes. It only matters what you do.

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/offensive-materials-policy?id=4324#:~...

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What matters is a fair market place for all....having a vague policy is weak at best....the fact you just stated that in no way will you list a Black Americana item actually hurts the free and open trade market and also does not give a avid collector a chance to buy the item...E-bay banned the sale of ivory the same way years ago and chased away that business as well to all the auction houses....there is nothing offensive about a heading that reads Black Americana hence why there are 160000 headings on E-bay currently that have that.

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Once you get on Ebays radar, you stay there.



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You keep mentioning the word alligator. Did the removed listing have anything to do with “gator bait”?

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No...you can see multiple postcards on E-bay with alligators...none are taken down and available for sale

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