Every platform has problems

[tunicaslot]

New c-net article about what's been going on behind the scenes at Amazon. This has affected the 3rd party venue sellers over there and really put them at a disadvantage.

https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-reportedly-probing-employees-leaking-data-for-bribes/

[annaba_38]

I would almost guarantee that happens with every venue that allows third-party vendors.

[tunicaslot]

I'm sure it does - but many here feel Ebay is to blame for everything and things are all rainbows and unicorns over on the other 3rd party venues. If people would take the time to read and educate themselves - they'd find problems exist everywhere.

[castlemagicmemories]

Sometimes it seems that if it were raining, that would be Ebay's fault as well.

[castlemagicmemories]

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I'm sure it does - but many here feel Ebay is to blame for everything and things are all rainbows and unicorns over on the other 3rd party venues. If people would take the time to read and educate themselves - they'd find problems exist everywhere.

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Good points but I think some prefer to cling to their opinions.  They don't want the facts, or the big picture.  Those things just get in the way!

Kind of like, Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.  Substitute the word facts in there.

[grumpus_otter]

From the article:

"We hold our employees to a high ethical standard and anyone in violation of our Code faces discipline, including termination and potential legal and criminal penalties,"

Well Amazon, maybe you'd get more loyalty if you paid them fairly and didn't run your operation like a sweat shop.

[emerald40]

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@castlemagicmemories wrote:

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I'm sure it does - but many here feel Ebay is to blame for everything and things are all rainbows and unicorns over on the other 3rd party venues. If people would take the time to read and educate themselves - they'd find problems exist everywhere.

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Good points but I think some prefer to cling to their opinions.  They don't want the facts, or the big picture.  Those things just get in the way!

Kind of like, Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.  Substitute the word facts in there.

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Or the ones living in ebay past.  They refuse to change and evolve.

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[gramophone-georg]

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@tunicaslot wrote:

I'm sure it does - but many here feel Ebay is to blame for everything and things are all rainbows and unicorns over on the other 3rd party venues. If people would take the time to read and educate themselves - they'd find problems exist everywhere.

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The problem eBay has that's head and shoulders above everyone else is on the buying side... error messages, worthless search, catalog based shopping multi listings that are confusing as all get out, almost weekly major unannounced changes to things that make things even more difficult, constantly fiddling with buyer preferences with no input from the buyer, non- functioning coupons, unnanounced beta test opt ins, etc.

I can count the number of error messages and failures on all the other sites I've ever used combined on less than one finger. Here it's an accelerating constant. 

It's almost as if eBay is running out of ideas for passive- aggressively antagonizing sellers so they've started in on buyers.

I can turn on one click buying at that big rival place and find+ buy what I'm looking for in less time than it takes the first page of non relevant search results with error messages on eBay to load. 

I fear this holiday shopping season is going to be a rout for eBay while their rivals post double digit gains... AGAIN. I would not find actual NEGATIVE growth for eBay in Q4 surprising at all, especially with the big payment provider change that you just KNOW they'll force right about the beginning of November... untested and error prone.

Nothing works and nobody's in charge.

It's one thing when I as a seller decide enough of the nonsense and stop selling here... but if I as a BUYER find my time constantly wasted with complication and fail here constantly vis a vis the entire rest of the WWW, when do we stop telling everyone "it's not eBay... it's YOU" and "every other site has the same issues" and face reality?

It's NOT, and they DON'T.

Wake up, eBay.

[reallynicestamps]

@castlemagicmemories

Sometimes it seems that if it were raining, that would be Ebay's fault as well.

Someone should do a comparitive analysis of eBay sales cross-referenced to catastrophic weather events.

[coolections]

lol

[tunicaslot]

Sorry georg I've listened to this doom and gloom for 20 some years. I have good days and I have bad as I've aged - just like I have good days on Ebay and I have bad. Thing is - I accept there are problems - I realize the changes are not always in my best interest - but I refuse to be so negative - I'll make lemonade out of those lemons.

I'm of the mindset - that if you expect the worst - you'll get the worst - I'd rather think of all the good things I've been able to do because of the venue. I don't live in the past and take each day as it comes - life is too short to be miserable. I feel sorry for those who are.

[gramophone-georg]

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@tunicaslot wrote:

Sorry georg I've listened to this doom and gloom for 20 some years. I have good days and I have bad as I've aged - just like I have good days on Ebay and I have bad. Thing is - I accept there are problems - I realize the changes are not always in my best interest - but I refuse to be so negative - I'll make lemonade out of those lemons.

I'm of the mindset - that if you expect the worst - you'll get the worst - I'd rather think of all the good things I've been able to do because of the venue. I don't live in the past and take each day as it comes - life is too short to be miserable. I feel sorry for those who are.

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Don't you think that eBay should strive to fix the issues? You aren't concerned about buyers getting turned off by these things?

[castlemagicmemories]

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

@castlemagicmemories

Sometimes it seems that if it were raining, that would be Ebay's fault as well.

Someone should do a comparitive analysis of eBay sales cross-referenced to catastrophic weather events.

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[pjcdn2005]

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@tunicaslot wrote:

Sorry georg I've listened to this doom and gloom for 20 some years. I have good days and I have bad as I've aged - just like I have good days on Ebay and I have bad. Thing is - I accept there are problems - I realize the changes are not always in my best interest - but I refuse to be so negative - I'll make lemonade out of those lemons.

I'm of the mindset - that if you expect the worst - you'll get the worst - I'd rather think of all the good things I've been able to do because of the venue. I don't live in the past and take each day as it comes - life is too short to be miserable. I feel sorry for those who are.

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I agree with you.  I think that some people are always going to promote gloom and doom.  However, I do think that ebay doesn't always realize how much some changes and constant change affects buyers and how frustrating that can be.   Or how things such as using variations listings being used improperly so that search is skewed can upset buyers and cause them to leave.   Lately it doesn't seem like ebay is just upsetting sellers, it is upsetting those who are just buyers as well.  They really need to step back and look at the direction they are headed from a different point of view.  Personally, as a buyer I hate the product page direction. If I wanted to shop that way I would go to the site they are immitating.

[tunicaslot]

I'd love Ebay to fix the issues and have said so before but I can't dwell on that. Myself and others have already diversified on other platforms - but sales are worse than here because buyers still come to Ebay to shop.

I get sick of everyone beating a dead horse. Change what you can change and accept what you can't.