03-10-2020 09:12 AM
Not looking for advice or an answer to a question. Just sounding off!
Its interesting that I am hearing a lot of comments from family members and friends who know I sell on eBay. Comments center around the price some sellers have listed sanitizing items for, asking me if I am doing the same thing. Most comments are benign some are more negative. I guess you find out the true nature of some folk.
I am not naive, been on this earth for 64 years A career in the Armed Forces, one in Law enforcement (Before I get comments about being a war monger or dirty cop, I like to believe I was one of the "good" guys) and 5 years of providing direct support for Adults with Developmental Disabilities has shown me the many facets of human nature. Of course I know there will always be people that take gross advantage of human misfortune.
But every time I see the type of person that tries to sell a bottle of hand sanitizer for $100 it still irks me.
I would venture to say that most of the sellers that use these forums are not in that group of lower life forms and I appreciate that.
So I have vented, thank you for reading and am interested in any other views.
Have a great day and good luck selling!
03-11-2020 07:30 AM
It’s affecting everyone at this point, on or offline.
My youngest daughter is due in 3 weeks, husband is deployed, and she’s alone on the China Lake naval base (only moved last week). Ridgecrest, the town surrounding the base, is on the edge of the Mojave Desert.
We’re talking “The Hills Have Eyes” shooting location, people. Even Amazon orders take extra days - her new furniture took a week for delivery and the washer dryer won’t arrive for another 10 days. They’re in the tail end of nowhere.
And here’s where I’m going with this:
She couldn’t get cases of water in town the other day while she was doing other errands, and ended up buying it back on base.
She says everything is low or gone in town - toothpaste, hand sanitizer, wipes, etc.
There REALLY ARE places where people don’t have a mini mart or supermarket on every block.
Thank goodness she’s on base but what about the townies?
I’m sorry. It’s unconscionable. Hoarding beyond one’s own family’s needs and profiteering are just plain wrong.
03-11-2020 07:36 AM
I didn't say they couldn't . I simply don't agree with such a draconian method when people's livelihoods and health are at stake . IMO there are better ways to stop price gouging . Tulips
03-11-2020 08:03 AM
"A fool and his money are soon parted"
My solution to the so called "price gougers" is to not be a fool, then sit back and be amused while watching the fools and their money part ways.
03-11-2020 08:11 AM
@mam98031 wrote:
@gwzcomps wrote:Not gonna say I agree with the price gouging but I am curious why selling an $1 bottle of hand sanitizer for $100 is any different than selling an old $1 coin for $100. I do find it intriguing when people try to exploit supply and demand for personal gain. Whether we realize it or not it is a common daily occurrence. It is especially bad in the medical industry. Where the line is drawn does make for a good debate. Hopefully in this situation it doesn't cause too much harm.
So if the some businesses bought up all the water in any given area that is in the middle of a medical crisis, then started selling it back to the people in the area at $100 a bottle, would you feel the same way?
I mean that isn't even a similar comparison. Last I knew hand sanitizer wasn't a necessity for life. All the experts have been saying hand washing and not touching face are more important.
03-11-2020 10:12 AM
@lightlily_arts wrote:The coin isn't something that all people need during an emergency crisis.
California's anti-price gouging statute, Penal Code Section 396, prohibits raising the price of many consumer goods and services by more than 10% after an emergency has been declared. Local laws may also contain their own prohibitions on price gouging.
Price gouging is illegal in California and eBay is headquartered in California. Our Governor has already declared Corona Virus as a Health Emergency Crisis. People who take advantage of during a crisis should have their listings pulled.
Price Gouging laws kick in when a state declares a State of Emergency, which your state has and at least 11 other states.
I'm with you. It makes no sense that some can't see the difference between what Ebay has banned for price gouging reasons and a new dresser, coin, stamp, or something that has nothing to do with the health crisis at hand.
03-11-2020 10:16 AM
@turquoisetulips wrote:The point I was making is there is no difference between manufactures profiting from items that can cause serious health problems including horrific life threatening addictions and the people who try and profit from a pandemic . They both result in ill gotten gain . I'm already aware that e bay can choose to ban whatever they want to ban . However since the innocent honest sellers are being punished right along with the guilty ,, I don't agree with the ban . Should rules be instituted regarding these items instead ? Yes . Tulips
Yes there is, but clearly no matter what I say it isn't going to make a difference to you.
Ebay doesn't require any of us to agree with them on anything that they do. Besides, I'm unsure as to why anyone would think Ebay is above the law, which is exactly what it would mean if Ebay did not react to this situation we have discussed at length.
So again, if you don't like the laws, then do something to change them instead of all this. Put the energy into getting the laws changed and then if this situation arises again in the future Ebay won't have to comply.
03-11-2020 10:18 AM
@this*old*attic wrote:
It’s affecting everyone at this point, on or offline.
My youngest daughter is due in 3 weeks, husband is deployed, and she’s alone on the China Lake naval base (only moved last week). Ridgecrest, the town surrounding the base, is on the edge of the Mojave Desert.
We’re talking “The Hills Have Eyes” shooting location, people. Even Amazon orders take extra days - her new furniture took a week for delivery and the washer dryer won’t arrive for another 10 days. They’re in the tail end of nowhere.
And here’s where I’m going with this:
She couldn’t get cases of water in town the other day while she was doing other errands, and ended up buying it back on base.
She says everything is low or gone in town - toothpaste, hand sanitizer, wipes, etc.
There REALLY ARE places where people don’t have a mini mart or supermarket on every block.
Thank goodness she’s on base but what about the townies?
I’m sorry. It’s unconscionable. Hoarding beyond one’s own family’s needs and profiteering are just plain wrong.
I am really sorry to hear that you have so much to be concerned with. My heart goes out to you and your family.
I agree with you completely.
03-11-2020 10:24 AM
@gwzcomps wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@gwzcomps wrote:Not gonna say I agree with the price gouging but I am curious why selling an $1 bottle of hand sanitizer for $100 is any different than selling an old $1 coin for $100. I do find it intriguing when people try to exploit supply and demand for personal gain. Whether we realize it or not it is a common daily occurrence. It is especially bad in the medical industry. Where the line is drawn does make for a good debate. Hopefully in this situation it doesn't cause too much harm.
So if the some businesses bought up all the water in any given area that is in the middle of a medical crisis, then started selling it back to the people in the area at $100 a bottle, would you feel the same way?
I mean that isn't even a similar comparison. Last I knew hand sanitizer wasn't a necessity for life. All the experts have been saying hand washing and not touching face are more important.
WHY?
Many small stores that you go into do not even have public restrooms in which you could wash your hands. And I don't have a wash station in my car. So I'd have to wait until I got home to wash my hands. So what about all the surfaces I touch between here and there.
The precautions of washing hands, hand sanitizers, wipes and mask are ALL preventative measures to be used in hopes of helping to slow down the progression of the virus. The crisis isn't going to end anytime soon if we don't follow the preventative measures. It will continue to spread and more will die.
03-11-2020 10:27 AM
03-11-2020 10:31 AM
Really? Your friends and family members think so little of you?
03-11-2020 12:45 PM
I know the area where your daughter lives and it is remote. I live in a much larger city north of LA and the panic buying is absolutely ridiculous. I also know there are people buying this stuff up for resale so I am glad that eBay is banning them. I'm furious that my nephew had to drive up from Los Angeles to get water and toilet paper. This same problem has been taking place on Amazon. There were listings for toilet paper on Amazon for $300 and wish they would pull listings of price gouging.
03-11-2020 12:54 PM
I know. Disposable gloves have gone that direction too.
03-11-2020 12:57 PM
Kobe Bryant’s $50 jersey the day before he died was $50. The day after it was $500. Where is all the complaining about price gouging at?
03-11-2020 12:59 PM
@large_sells1983 wrote:Kobe Bryant’s $50 jersey the day before he died was $50. The day after it was $500. Where is all the complaining about price gouging at?
Unbelievable. People on these thread continue to surprise me. You actually think that is the same thing as a Pandemic. There is nothing I can say that would help you to better understand that hasn't already been said.
Stay safe.
03-11-2020 01:41 PM
And to think I got chewed out by a buyer in December for selling Pop Up Tape Refills ( they have quit making them for the wristlets) at what were definitely crazy high prices....