Ebay is infringing on seller's right to list ONLY what they want to list.

[jgoebert2012]

I have a store  and pay for 1000 listings per month.

I sell vinyl albums all with a quantity of 1.

I need to modify my listings each month.  My listings are done on any day I have spare time and as a result some end almost every day.  I have 1000's of albums to choose from and do not want to keep listing the same ones.

EBAY now REQUIRES all Fixed Price listings to be "good till cancelled".

Thousands of sellers are complaining LOUDLY.

You as a buyer will see lots of sellers leaving.

Just thought you should know.

Jerry

This is as bad as EBAY taking 10% of the money charged for actual mailing costs.  Seems that should be a federal crime.

[zylor4200]

Yes, I agree, ebay continues to micro-manage their seller's businesses. This latest example is a real drag but if you only want to list your items for 30 days you will need to end any item you don't want ebay to relist on the 29th day.

[cashvaluerecovery2011]

Now imagine having 1000 listings. At my peak I was keeping 1000 listings as 1 man band. No help. At my absolute fastest I could only list 40 a day or so with errors and keeping with good pictures. 40 a day means 25 days strait of listing at max potential. That now means if you are going to end listings on day 29, there is going to be a day 29 every single day 25 days in a row............if you are a 40 a day type lister.

With 7 days, 10 days etc. They create a rush to get it before its gone. It goes to unsold items page where It can be bulk relisted at your convenience when the seller feels the timing is right. Now if you go in and end earlier than 29 days.............you dont get that "ending soonest bump". You sure as heck dont get that "listing might disappear" bump.

There are ways around everything. But with every single thing Ive come across in life..........Less choices = bad for me. Give me lots of choices and options and I will find what works best for me just like all of us here. We are all different and smart enough to figure out what works best for our business.

[castlemagicmemories]

They create a rush to get it before its gone

Yes, a sense of urgency as it will soon be gone forever.

[cashvaluerecovery2011]

No sense of urgency when buyers know that not only has no one else bought the item in the last 29 days, but if it doesnt sell it will be here tomorrow for sell.

Im strictly a store using GTC guy who occasionally does .99 auctions to get rid of stuff im tired of looking at which are always 7 to 10 days. Effects me not one bit as auctions still have early ending listing times and im otherwise GTC on others. Those who do not do this full time though are crippled by this.

Here is the funny part. I can find quotes many times over the years on ebay suggesting getting rid of old listings because it clogs up search for buyers and hurts other sellers. Another reason to "coax" sellers into lowering their prices to move old listings. Yet I can find just as many quotes of ebay saying GTC having items hanging around longer will help in search. And.....adding that promoted listings listing will help you get seen.

Which is it? Clogged up and hard to find in search? Or the more and longer the merrier?
OR.........anything we say is just blathering cover for "we are trying to find ways to get more money out of you."

Pretty obvious.

[18704d]

Your  right to list?

eBay also doesn't allow tobacco and firearms (among other things) to be listed here. 

And hasn't FVF on shipping been around for 10 years, here?

fwiw,

Lynn

[southern*sweet*tea]

You've never had the "right" to list what you want to list.  You have the ability and the privilege to list here as long as you adhere to the rules. Ebay has a whole plethora of rules.  It's Ebay's playground, and you list what they want, how they want it.  If Ebay wants all GTC, then all GTC it will be. Their house, their rules.

Do I like it? No, I would prefer a choice.  But since my stuff sells here, I have to adapt or die. If I can't adapt, that's my problem and nobody elses'.

[castlemagicmemories]

You're right~it's not a right but a privilege and I believe that privilege can be revoked by Ebay at any time according to the User Agreement.

FVF on shipping started in July of 2011, so not quite ten but close.

[dirk12955]

We have no rights to do anything. Ebay is a business, not a democracy. There's no constitutional amendment regarding ebay sellers.

The above comment was directed at nobody in particular.

[krys888]

Sellers don’t have rights. When I started selling two years ago, I was so mad! I even called one of my IP lawyers. He said, and I quote: “The US Constitution is an agreement between the government and the people; not an agreement between the people and the people.” I should’ve known that, but I admit, I’d never thought of it that way. I just thought I had “certain inalienable rights” and... nope. It was a real wake up call for me: as a citizen, as a woman, as a human being. Mind blown. And I’m no longer embarrassed to admit it LOL!

[shre-98]

Seems that should be a federal crime.
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Roflmao

[gamersbaystore]

I totally agree with everything you're saying too. Without the sense of urgency to buy, the buyers don't feel so compelled to purchase, as they assume the items wont be disappearing anytime soon.

You are a very hard worker my friend, especially to list as many as 40 items in a day. I've been pumping out listings all day long day after day myself, not a walk in the park.

No matter what, this GTC thing is going to backfire right in ebay's face before everything is said and done. Everyone is saying their sales are down, which means ebay's profits are going to go down the tubes as well.

Live and learn, ebay will learn the hard way.

I also have no doubt your sales and mine will both fall. I sell video games myself (though I;m getting ready to sell vinyl as well and have before), and if I list only 500 items, I would prefer to use my additional 500 listings to relist after 10 days, rather than 30. Now we can't do that anymore.

What's even ore obvious is the fact that ebay executives clearly didn't think things through before pushing these changes. They really need to start listening.

[jgoebert2012]

nOW YOU NEED TO PAY TO PROMOTE YOUR ITEMS OR THEY'LL never be seen

[jgoebert2012]

eBAY HOPES WE ALL START PAYING TO PROMOTE OUR LISTINGS...OR BE BURIED IN THE gtc MURK

[castlemagicmemories]

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@cashvaluerecovery2011 wrote:
No sense of urgency when buyers know that not only has no one else bought the item in the last 29 days, but if it doesnt sell it will be here tomorrow for sell.

Im strictly a store using GTC guy who occasionally does .99 auctions to get rid of stuff im tired of looking at which are always 7 to 10 days. Effects me not one bit as auctions still have early ending listing times and im otherwise GTC on others. Those who do not do this full time though are crippled by this.

Here is the funny part. I can find quotes many times over the years on ebay suggesting getting rid of old listings because it clogs up search for buyers and hurts other sellers. Another reason to "coax" sellers into lowering their prices to move old listings. Yet I can find just as many quotes of ebay saying GTC having items hanging around longer will help in search. And.....adding that promoted listings listing will help you get seen.

Which is it? Clogged up and hard to find in search? Or the more and longer the merrier?
OR.........anything we say is just blathering cover for "we are trying to find ways to get more money out of you."

Pretty obvious.

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Yes, I am familiar with those quotes.  It has been said that the longer a GTC listing goes on, the lower it sinks in visibility.  Yes, eBay has removed listings that went for a year or more without a sale.  

These things are remembered and in addition to the concern about loss of personal choice, and extra fees, there is concern that they will lose visibility as well.

eBay has said that this won't happen, and that sales should increase if everyone uses GTC.  

ebay has focused on sales velocity~quick sales~so perhaps this ties in with lowered visibility will make lower prices more prevalent, in an attempt to both get a sale and to avoid extra fees.  It might make Best Offer more acceptable. 

I don't know.  

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