eBay

adaecomsales · ‎03-14-2023

Ebay really only needs our SS number to report what is sold to the IRS, the fact we don't get Photo ID of Ebay's CEO and officers who like banks can go out of business and leave sellers hanging. The other security issue is Ebay obviously uses 3rd world parties who can be desperate for money and live in countries that are famous for online scams and identity theft. After many years of selling and 100% seller feedback this is an insult to sellers.

I could see that buyers should have to require photo ID's to buy as to not cheap already reputable sellers with years of sales but not more than an SS card for sellers. The chances of being ripped off by a buyer is 150% more than by a seller who has years of sales and high positive feedback.

If you're going to respond with "If you don't like it, then leave" then please don't waste your time with responding as you're the problem like all the people that went along with anything government demanded pre 1945 only to use it for dishonest practices. People who don't question anything big business demands are responsible for their own demise. Plus why big business always get's worse in their demands.

Fact is if anyone wanted to use a fake id it can be done. Plus as it's been stated why are we forced to share one more piece of private data when identity theft is at an all time high?

For whose good and protection is this? NOT the sellers. Once again Ebay would be nothing without seller but they treat them like criminals and cattle.

The Ebay experience is constantly gotten worse over the years, poor interface, design and customer support.
I'm sure the creator can't believe how much it has changed since he created it. Shame on you Ebay

maxine*j · ‎03-15-2023

@monica-sells wrote:
just adding on to this eloquent, factual post......
and repeating for emphasis.......

"...So you can think whatever you care to think about the ID verification, but don't think that it was eBay's idea..."

Yes, I see thread after thread here, month after month, year after year, complaining that a tyrannical eBay is collecting sales tax, is lowering the threshold for issuing 1099s, is requiring ever-deeper account verification -- when the fact is that eBay, and all the other marketplace facilitators, fought all those things tooth and nail. All of that costs eBay and the others big bucks, and gains them very little, if anything.

But so many sellers have the mindset of victims, with eBay is their oppressor, their persecutor that is always on the lookout for more ways to make piteous-victim-sellers' lives more miserable.

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gloryglorygifts · ‎03-15-2023

You need to have a photo ID on most marketplaces to sell now, not only ebay, and your info has to match that of your financial institutions. It's an enhanced security measure for not only sellers but buyers as well. As someone that was in the financial industry for decades, I can tell you for a fact that stealing ssn's is very easy and often done. In order to get a hacker off an instagram account, you have to provide a photo of you, holding 3 forms of ID that are legible in the photo and one of them has to be a photo ID. Fraud is rampant everywhere and if you need a photo ID to prove who you are, it costs you nothing to provide it.

maxine*j · ‎03-15-2023

@2010byandsel100 wrote:

"Federal and state governments are compelling on-line marketplaces to take measures to try to eliminate the sale of counterfeit and stolen goods. This is in response to both angry consumers, who are cheated out of their money by on-line sellers and sometimes even physically harmed by counterfeit goods. "

Let the (local) government do it's job to stop the stealing
Why is ebay tasked with stopping the sale of stolen goods?

eBay alone is not asked with it. Local law enforcement, federal agencies, pawn shops and others who offer collateral loans, the courts, among many entities, public and private, are also tasked with it. eBay is tasked with taking measures to stop the sale of stolen goods on the platform it provides for selling and buying. That's all it is tasked with.

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dbfolks166mt · ‎03-15-2023

Ebay has to keep ebay safe. It does not matter how long you have been here. Ebay needs to verify that it is you behind your Ebay account and not your kid or nephew. Sometimes, older sellers die and the accounts are then used by their family/kids. Sometimes, they do bad things. I was once scammed by a seller with over 15,000+ ids. It was a cheap CD. By the time I went to my Purchases, the seller was gone. Tons of negatives issued before I bought the item. ALL of the negatives were for not shipping. So that is why Ebay needs an ID to make sure who is behind the account and that they are alive and kicking. I know you don't want to hear it but just send the photo ID. We have all done it. I have 2 selling accounts and I have been here since 1998. Most of the folks that post here are also sellers and use an ID for posting. None of those will be sympathizing with you. This is actually a very good policy and should have been done the second that anyone registers on ebay. No valid ID, then get lost should be the ebay motto.

Totally agree but the policy, at the moment, is one sided and focused only on the sellers. While that is fine there is the other side of the coin that relates to the friendly fraud that is being committed by the buyer community and we see those posts every day on this forum. The chargeback issue is becoming a major problem for all retailers worldwide but the CC companies are bound to operate under the current laws that are almost 50 years old and in need of major revision.

monster-deals · ‎03-15-2023

@adaecomsales wrote:
Why is everyone being punished?

Why is verifying where to send your money to a punishment?

Seems to me NOT verifying your identity and no longer getting payouts is the punishment.

a_c_green · ‎03-15-2023

@monster-deals wrote:
@adaecomsales wrote:
Why is everyone being punished?
Why is verifying where to send your money to a punishment?

Seems to me NOT verifying your identity and no longer getting payouts is the punishment.

I dunno if I'd call that a "punishment," but it is certainly a logical outcome. If they're planning to send @a_c_green's money to @a_c_green's checking account, I would expect them to want to verify that I am in fact @a_c_green.

maxine*j · ‎03-15-2023

@dbfolks166mt wrote:
... the policy, at the moment, is one sided and focused only on the sellers. While that is fine there is the other side of the coin that relates to the friendly fraud that is being committed by the buyer community and we see those posts every day on this forum. The chargeback issue is becoming a major problem for all retailers worldwide but the CC companies are bound to operate under the current laws that are almost 50 years old and in need of major revision.

I completely agree. I'm not sure what the way forward on this will be, but sooner or later it will be addressed. Corporations and banks have the ear of governments, and as this sort of fraud on the part of consumers increases, something will have to give.

The anonymity of e-commerce, along with other societal changes and outmoded laws and ideas developed before the internet and other e-technologies were born, have created a breeding ground for fraud by buyers, as well as by sellers.

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nh7235 · ‎03-15-2023

@adaecomsales wrote:

Ebay really only needs our SS number to report what is sold to the IRS, the fact we don't get Photo ID of Ebay's CEO and officers who like banks can go out of business and leave sellers hanging.

I tried it -- asked the bank teller for their state-issued ID since I'm giving them my money -- but it didn't work.

@adaecomsales wrote:

The other security issue is Ebay obviously uses 3rd world parties who can be desperate for money and live in countries that are famous for online scams and identity theft.

Remember Edward Snowden took government secrets out of the country? In the same way that that was far-away Hawaii with a secure connection to the mainland, we might be concerned that eBay entrusts the low-bidder Adyen with our private infornation, available at any of their many offices remote and far away.

chapeau-noir · ‎03-15-2023

@dbfolks166mt wrote:
@dbfolks166mt wrote:
Personally I had no problem providing a photo ID. The picture on my drivers license looks nothing like me. So when they sell that information to the companies that are building the facial recognition software it is basically going to be useless to big brother.
Mine makes me look demented, and reminds me of the old joke that in the midst of...mutual passion...one hopes that they don't look like the picture on their driver's license.

General: There's a huge problem of fraud internet-wide, it's getting worse, and this is part of the effort to try to control it.

Fully agree with regards to the fraud but from what I see on this forum and what you read about in the news most of that is buyer fraud not so much the seller. The buyers are covered and in fact given the tools to commit the fraud so why is eBay not asking for the ID information from the buyer community? The following is a little dated by it gives you an idea of the problem and the numbers have probably grown.

https://financesonline.com/ecommerce-fraud-statistics/

The ONLY reason a photo ID would be required would have to be connected to some law enforcement entity using facial recognition software to possibly track crimes unrelated to fraud like money laundering or the movement of drugs or other contraband.

Photo verification would be on file and matched for suspicious activity - chances are, hijacked account(s) would not be able to provide a match. The reasons could be made clearer (communication on this site isn't great - not as bad as Etsy, though, who doesn't really bother) and the process more consistent, but there is a real problem here being addressed.

“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Wherever law ends, tyranny begins" -John Locke

itsjustasprain · ‎03-15-2023

@nh7235 wrote:
Remember Edward Snowden took government secrets out of the country? In the same way that that was far-away Hawaii with a secure connection to the mainland, we might be concerned that eBay entrusts the low-bidder Adyen with our private infornation, available at any of their many offices remote and far away.

While you are not familiar with Adyen you may have heard of some of their other customers who apparently trust them a lot: Uber - McDonalds - Microsoft - LinkedIn - KLM Airlines...

https://www.adyen.com/customers

buyselljack2016 · ‎03-15-2023

I recently transferred money form my checking to purchase a share certificate at my CU. I was logged in via my confirmed ID to the secure CU website. I was required to upload a photo of my driver's license in order to accomplish that.

slippinjimmy · ‎03-15-2023

@chapeau-noir wrote:
Photo verification would be on file and matched for suspicious activity - chances are, hijacked account(s) would not be able to provide a match. The reasons could be made clearer (communication on this site isn't great - not as bad as Etsy, though, who doesn't really bother) and the process more consistent, but there is a real problem here being addressed.

BINGO! Glad to see I'm not the only one who understands this.

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep

ms.rodriguez* · ‎03-15-2023

Everybody needs to be treated the same. Anyway, what if the seller died and someone not as honest took over the account. Ebay needs to be sure that you are who you say you are. They need to protect themselves too in situations where many sellers can have the same name. The only folks that need to be worried about ebay asking for a valid ID is those that do not have one that matches the name registered on the account.

ms.rodriguez* · ‎03-15-2023

Frankly, it's easier for someone to steal your ID/details from the doctor's office than from Ebay. My doctor has his file cabinets right next to the check out desk. I can grab a few of those folders as the girl turns around to make photocopies of my ID and insurance card. I am not worried at all about Ebay and Paypal having my ID.

dbfolks166mt · ‎03-15-2023

Photo verification would be on file and matched for suspicious activity - chances are, hijacked account(s) would not be able to provide a match. The reasons could be made clearer (communication on this site isn't great - not as bad as Etsy, though, who doesn't really bother) and the process more consistent, but there is a real problem here being addressed.

Matched to what and by whom? Maybe the law should have required your fingerprints and eBay should require sellers to use fingerprint recognition every time they access or logon to their account. It's a feature that is already available on some phones, along with facial recognition, although the facial recognition does not always work 100% of the time on my phone.