Ebay Scammer How do i deal with Properly ?

[matt266]

Hi i have this person make offer on a item and i accepted . 

I tested it and it worked good .They sent  a immediate return  upon recieving .

I started to look at their feedback. And then  their feedback for others.

This is a big scammer    and has been doing it to many other people .  And leaving them negatives .

I feel so bad for all thos other sellers.   How does  ebay keep alllowing this. This person is a  obvious big tiem scammer .Its hard to tell how many people are victims as some leave automatic feedback . Im not a expert on this and what are the exact steps . 

They have just opened a false  return  tryign to get me pay return shipping . Looks like they are also sending many sellers garabage back   and junk instead of their items .

[siayan]

You will have to accept the return and pay return shipping. I think you will get a brick shipped back to you. 

You need to report the buyer just to get it on record. 

If it were me I would do this. Leave a note in your mail box not to leave any packages, only the note to pick up at Post Office. I would then open the package in front of a supervisor. If you are in a rural small PO they may be accommodating. 

This sounds like a far fetched thing but it is the only way this will get stopped. The Post Office should have a service for a fee where returns can be opened at the Post Office and a note of contents on the tracking. Not a detailed thing but simply just a note of contents. This can then be used for decision making. 

[ersatz_sobriquet]

What's the item? 

[siayan]

It is obvious the buyer has escalated to regular scammer from just a novice

[ersatz_sobriquet]

Yeah, that's why I'm wondering if in this case seller even wants to pay for return shipping of a box of rags...

[siayan]

I know my idea above sounds far fetched but who is in charge of Mail Fraud? The Post Office. I guarantee about 10 publicized cases of federal convictions for mail fraud would echo around the scammers boards. It would stop overnight.

It's like the police saying we won't prosecute shoplifting. 

[ersatz_sobriquet]

I do like your idea, I wonder if it ever works. 

[siayan]

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

I do like your idea, I wonder if it ever works. 

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I got the idea on the power seller boards a few years back. I searched a few months ago and can not find it. A lady sold a very expensive vase to France- $2000+. She got a return and her gut told her she was getting scammed. When that package arrived had it held at the post office and opened it front of a supervisor. As expected it was not the vase. The supervisor wrote an official letter and she won her case. The thread stretched out over several days or a week. It was one of those depressing threads then a happy ending. Anyone remember this?

[postingid2017]

After seeing the type of FB left - I would block him/her.  I don't know which item you sold to the buyer, but in the future, on Best Offers, I would check the buyer out prior to accepting his/her offer.  I don't think that eBay will do much.  From the looks of the FB left, he/she should be close to a claim limit.  And if they return anything other than what you sold to them, file Mail Fraud via USPS.  

Sorry the thief buyer found you 😞 

[luckythewinner]

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

I do like your idea, I wonder if it ever works. 

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That idea has been posted here as the "only way to stop it", as has the idea of videotaping yourself when you package, mail and /or receive the item back. 

And yet never once in more than a decade of reading these boards do I recall a seller ever saying that it accomplished anything. 

Sellers who encounter this behavior either choose to stay and absorb it, or leave and go somewhere else. Given that ebay currently has 1 billion listings, I would assume that many of those sellers choose to stay and accept getting ripped off occasionally. 

[siayan]

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@luckythewinner wrote:

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@ersatz_sobriquet wrote:

I do like your idea, I wonder if it ever works. 

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That idea has been posted here as the "only way to stop it", as has the idea of videotaping yourself when you package, mail and /or receive the item back. 

And yet never once in more than a decade of reading these boards do I recall a seller ever saying that it accomplished anything. 

Sellers who encounter this behavior either choose to stay and absorb it, or leave and go somewhere else. Given that ebay currently has 1 billion listings, I would assume that many of those sellers choose to stay and accept getting ripped off occasionally. 

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I agree but they do it because they have no recourse. Mail Fraud is not prosecuted.

[ersatz_sobriquet]

Terrific that once in a blue moon this happens. Any idea what paperwork to file in this case? I am all for it if there's a way for sellers to fight back on receiving trash. 

Beautiful morning in Michigan! Not too hot, not too cold, just right for this Goldilocks 🙂 

[ersatz_sobriquet]

Yes, we all do. Most of the time it is only a false snad claim to avoid paying postage on remorse. These cases of sending back trash though, I do wonder if at least the seller can get complimentary refund from ebay. It does happen, although it seems to be a one time thing that ebay will absorb the cost for the seller. 

Most importantly, to get this buyer on ebay's blacklist and get them kicked off. 

[good.junque]

Good grief!  I went and read Feedback Left For Others for this person and my jaw literally dropped.  I can't understand why eBay hasn't jerked that jerk from both buying and selling at this site.

Laurie

[ersatz_sobriquet]

And you know, probably most of the sellers ripped off aren't even leaving false positives because they know it is a violation.