mam98031 • Volunteer Community Member • Buyer/Seller since 1999
Regards,
@dbfolks166mt wrote:Why are you yelling at me? I’m not the only one commenting or viewing this thread. There have been over 8100 views and 165 comments.
Who cares how old a thread is?
Not yelling at you hoping the moderators pick this up and close out this post for additional comment. I have found that often the moderators pickup this type of comment and close out the post.
All caps is yelling in the written form.
A post on the threads is NOT how the moderators might locate a thread that needs to be closed. You need to notify them.
@dbfolks166mt wrote:Sometimes posters think that by posting something like that it will get the thread closed. However a post on a thread doesn't have that effect.
Actually it does. I have made similar comments in zombie threads and often times within a day I notice the post has been closed out to further comment and my comment has been removed.
No it doesn't. You need to report it. If you have had success in getting threads closed just because you posted something on a thread, it is highly likely that someone else actually came through and reported the thread. So while you think the post has something to do with it, it isn't likely the case.
I know. For some reason sellers didn't mind paying it to PayPal, but they really hate paying it to Ebay for the same service.
@cnofear81 wrote:It's not even 12.55 percent it's 12.9 percent on my sales.And I agree they are scamming the sellers by doing that final value fee based on the taxes they collect from buyers. There has to be a law that is being broke by eBay. And they also take the buyers shipping cost without reimbursing the seller for that label purchase.
Hi @cnofear81
I am a little confused by the highlighted statement in your post above. If a Buyer pays the item cost and the shipping cost that a Seller charges then there is no reimbursement required since the Seller has already been paid that "shipping cost" money. If the Seller prints their labels through eBay, in many cases, they get a discount off the money the Buyer paid them to ship the item (there is no discount for USPS Media Mail labels).
@cnofear81 wrote:It's not even 12.55 percent it's 12.9 percent on my sales.And I agree they are scamming the sellers by doing that final value fee based on the taxes they collect from buyers. There has to be a law that is being broke by eBay.And they also take the buyers shipping cost without reiumbursting the seller for that label purchase.
For most categories, sellers without a store do pay 12.9% and have for a few years now.
Many posters have said there must be a law being broken, but no one has come up with that law yet, so can you?
All Money Processors charge you their fee on the entire amount received from your buyer, without any exceptions. PayPal did that all the years we used them.
It appears you need to pay a little closer attention to the details of your transactions going through Managed Payments. Sellers are ALWAYS paid the amount the buyer pays for the product AND for separate shipping if the seller charges that on the listing, LESS any FVF, the 30 cent per transaction fee and the COST of the shipping label if you print it through Ebay and have it paid via your MP account.
So if you charge $5.00 on a listing for shipping, the buyer will pay that to you. Then you create the shipping label and have it paid for from your MP account. Let's say the shipping cost you $4.00. So your net would be $5 - $4 = $1.00 less your FVF on the $5.00, so about 65 cents, you end up netting about 35 cents. Which is pretty good since shipping isn't suppose to be a charge you make a profit off of.
@cnofear81 wrote:You don't understand what he says. eBay charges final seller fee based on what the buyer pays for a tax and it should only be what the price of the item is listed for. Not all that extra crap eBay charges the buyer.
Thank you for your concern. I've been here for awhile and processed quite a few transactions since MP started.
Sellers have been paying a FVF on shipping for close to 12 years now. As for the sales tax, that happened when we entered Managed Payments. Before that we paid PayPal their fees on the entire amount that a buyer paid. But for some reason some sellers seem to think it was OK for PP, but not for Ebay. The logic of that escapes me.
Yes I agree, but PP does not collect and remit sales tax. They aren't required to, but Ebay is because they are a market place as well as the money processor.
I further agree that Ebay charges a higher percentage on the sales tax than any other site does as well. By about 10%. Not all other sites charge their fees on the sales tax, like Amazon does not.
@theteamsetguy wrote:If the states changed the law and ebay couldn't collect the FVF on the sales tax they will raise the base FVF fees to make up for the loss revenue. Instead of 12.90% FVF they could go to 13.50% on the price of the item and shipping only and come out the same in the end.
I'm not sure that is true. Before we entered MP, Ebay did not charge their FVF on sales tax and they were processing sales tax payment for the respective states for a couple years by that point.
The reason it is now part of the FVF structure is because Ebay wanted to move to a Simplified Fee program. Meaning a fee on the total paid by the buyer. What Ebay calls a simplified program has always had very mixed experiences by sellers.
Back in October of 2018, Ebay moved to Simplified Returns. And that is when the returns process rather blew up on sellers. So when Ebay uses the word "simplified" I tent to clinch my teeth waiting for what will happen next.
I didn't speak at all to the additional FVF sellers have to pay, specifically on the sales tax in my previous posts, but I'm very much aware of it and have never liked it. We are all paying about 10% more of FVF specifically on the sales tax than most if not all other sites similar to Ebay.
