Do you require immediate payment?

[jeansjewelry]

When you require immediate payment:

If you do:

1 - Your buyers cannot make offers on multiple items and combine them in one payment. 

2-  Each offer is immediately processed as a single transaction so buyers pay shipping for each item. Even if you offer  combined shipping discounts, this is not implemented. 

3 - If buyers use PayPal, Ebay does not let them use their PayPal credit cards. They have to use direct debit from their checking account. 

I canceled my purchases because of this. I wonder if buyers are discouraged from buying from me. 

I have no sales - this has never happened to me before.

[carlmarxx]

No it isn't ,mandatory  . sellers can opt out  of  immediate payment required    .   With  USPS's new  Ruel  surcharge   fee  on 19.000 zip codes  I don't see the need  for it  .  unless  I sell  in category's with  high none  paying buyers   Then it is BIN/with IPR  . I rarely  use send offer . 

[carlmarxx]

I have  had  seller   that  sent me  offer's  on five item's   3 of 5 didn't  have immediate payment required  and 2 that did  .  I don't  know   if seller  didn't opt out  100%  IPR  . but it is wired  . I had other sellers like this one  that   sent offers  with  some IPR some not.   I know of number  seller's  in face book  group I belong in ,that have said  they had to opt out more then  2 to 3 time.  .   I would  like buyer Vetting tool  for the high priced  auctions  ,then I needed auto-pay .

[carlmarxx]

I have to review the offers first  ,then I'm able to place them in cart without lose of deals   and then I make the payment.  and those seller's surprise  me  later with some shipping cost refunded .    

[iamalwaysright]

If you are refunding the exact price difference to your shipping cost down to the penny, you may eventually start to realize that you’re paying more in final value fees than the standard percentage from your item sold price. This is because eBay charges a final fee on the shipping you charge as well that you didn’t account for when refunding the price difference to your buyers.

[mam98031]

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@jeansjewelry wrote:

Depends on your product and sales strategy.  

You aim for single item sales. Others have lower priced items and aim for multiple item orders. 

I won't buy a $5 item if shipping costs $5 or more.  Do you?

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I agree with all that except the last statement.  The price of the item does NOT or should not EVER determine the cost of shipping.  Shipping is a weight based thing for most types of shipping.  There are all kinds of things that sell and sell well on Ebay that the product cost LESS than the shipping.

This will happen especially on things buyers aren't able to find locally.  I use to have a serious of patterns that were very inexpensive and very popular, but the shipping cost more than the item.  Often times with listings like this it falls into exactly what you said previously.  Buyers will buy multiple items and want combined shipping.

[johnrj1226]

When I go to any  retail store and buy multiple stuff I never get a a volume discount and pay  full  amount of  sales tax and some time  delivery costs like on appliances, lawn tractors  sod, multiple bags of mulch etc.  The pizza delivery person expect s a nice  tip - some people  enjoy  stiffing them  and their hairdresser and waiter, etc

[kensgiftshop]

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@jeansjewelry wrote:

Depends on your product and sales strategy.  

You aim for single item sales. Others have lower priced items and aim for multiple item orders. 

I won't buy a $5 item if shipping costs $5 or more.  Do you?

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The price of the item has nothing to do with how much it cost to ship.

If it was an item I needed and couldn't find locally, yes, I'd pay $5 to have it delivered even if it was a $2 item.

[ittybitnot]

 You are talking about sending invoices when adding items into cart. I am talking about offers being made. 

@bonanza125 

I am the BUYER.  If you, as the seller, send me "offers". these will be all 'immediate payment required' and require separate payments.  I no longer have an "accept" button for offers you send to me. If I want them I pay separately for each one at full shipping cost, and can only hope you refund the difference in shipping when you stuff all five or ten in the same box.  You don't have to, you can keep the extra if you like.  This is how it works for everyone now. There is no more combined shipping for offers that a seller sends.  This is in effect whether or not the seller retains the "buyer rules" or not that require a payment source upfront. This is just another way for eBay to get their .40 cents EACH non-refundable transaction fee from the seller, instead of one .40 cent charge for a combined order. 

If a seller should also retain these  settings for the pre-payment source that eBay provided them with the default set to yes,  It will now also affect offers as a BUYER I send to you, the seller.  As a buyer, I cannot send offers without providing a payment source upfront in order to make the offer at all.  This is my sign that if I make multiple offers, I am not going to be able to get combined shipping because they charge my card as soon as you accept.   If you sell postage stamps at a $2 shipping charge for each listing, and I make offers that you accept on 15 of them, my total shipping will be $30 for 15 stamps, auto-billed as 15 separate transactions on my card.   Not going to happen.   

Now as a seller, who has turned off the "buyer rules", I don't have to pony up a payment source in order to make offers to you.  I can make offers and NOT be auto-billed when you accept. These  do not remain for sale when the offer is accepted.   I can put the same 15 postage stamps in my cart when you accept, and request a total that would be more realistic than the $30 shipping in the above scenario.  When I "request a total", you can send me a corrected invoice. 

Sellers are allowed to limit their buyer pool any way they like.  If they are not interested in selling more than one thing per buyer, or encourage multiple sales, by all means they should keep the "buyer rules" in the default eBay posted them.  The Buyer Rules work better for turning away PAYING BUYERS than it ever did for discouraging non-payers.   A seller who had TURNED OFF the combined shipping killers since the last time I looked  got a nice order from me yesterday as did the others who did not require the payment source upfront that would also limit my payment options. 

https://www.ebay.com/bmgt/buyerrequirements

Buyer Rules:

*Require buyers to provide a payment method before they place a bid.

*Require buyers to provide a payment method before they make an offer.

Again, the above ^^^^^ have NOTHING to do with offers you send to a buyer. 

[ittybitnot]

When I go to any  retail store and buy multiple stuff I never get a a volume discount and pay  full  amount of  sales tax and some time  delivery costs like on appliances, lawn tractors  sod, multiple bags of mulch etc.  

@johnrj1226 
FWIW
I would respectfully suggest that you perhaps need to shop elsewhere.  I just purchased  a washer/drier, refrigerator, stove and microwave,  and dishwasher from a well known "home improvement" store.  The appliances were all on sale.  Not only did they provide an extra $100 off EACH item,  but they combined the 'delivery' charge to one payment of $29 for all of them instead of each one.  Installation is "free".  They even billed my card for the total, not separate transactions for each product.  

[asset_liquidators]

Sure. If it's a worth $10 to me. All that matters is total price.

[mamacassidy]

@iamalwaysright

ebay refunds fees on the refunded amount

[iamalwaysright]

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@mamacassidy wrote:

@iamalwaysright

ebay refunds fees on the refunded amount

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Right. But you are still paying fees on the shipping price that you didn’t refund the buyer (I.e. your exact shipping cost down to the penny). If you don’t incorporate those fees into your shipping price then it’s like your final value fee on your item price is higher than the standard 15ish%.

i.e. You sell an item for $10 and $5 shipping. Final value fee for item price is $1.50 (15%). Final value fee for shipping is $0.75 (15%). Total FVF is $2.25, which is 22.5% of your item sold price ($10). This is why some sellers in this situation might get PO’ed when they find out and say their fees are 22.5% of their item sold instead of 15% because they didn’t account for the eBay shipping fee and they don’t look as it as a whole (15% of total price of $15).

This is why my shipping charge is never exactly what my shipping cost is, it’s always higher. Especially when my actual shipping cost is much higher than the item price. Otherwise it will totally eat up my profits.

[iamalwaysright]

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@jeansjewelry wrote:

I won't buy a $5 item if shipping costs $5 or more.  Do you?

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Question for you: Which of the 3 listings would you buy from? The listings are for the same exact item, brand new.

1) $5 item with $10 shipping

2) $12 item with $5 shipping

3) $20 item with FREE SHIPPING

Choose.

[mamacassidy]

@iamalwaysright 

Ok, I see what you're saying.

I actually charge buyers the USPS price, but I print out the labels through ebay.

When I send a combined shipping refund, I'll go to the USPS shipping calculator online and type in the size, weight, and zip code to find out what they charge, then refund based on that amount. I do this so that I don't lose money on fees, but also so that if there's any question about the amount I'm charging, they can go look it up for themselves and see the exact prices. (With all the price increases in the last couple of years, some buyers are shocked at how much shipping actually costs.)

[johnrj1226]

You are just  amazing.