05-07-2020 06:31 AM
Disputing a "Negative Feedback" on eBay is USELESS proposition, no matter how absurd/ridiculous/unjust a reason for the "Neg Feedback".
eBay automatically rules for the buyer no matter what. And they use the same wording "It's the buyer experience".
It seems like an automatic response generated by the system. "Dispute resolution" is not given any consideration.
Case in point; I had a buyer, who posted a "negative feedback", then indicated that he will remove the "negative feedback" if I refund him the money and he KEEPS the item.
How is that NOT considered as "EXTORTION"??? What possible justification is there for eBay to rule in favor of the buyer???
The only supposed remedy is to reply to the "Neg Feedback" and report the buyer to eBay. As if eBay cares!!!
Regards, stay safe everybody!
05-07-2020 06:38 AM
05-07-2020 06:46 AM
Just a suggestion..........on your answers
Both negs state reasonable problems.......rather than label them extortions....a better answer to make you look good would have been (my opinion)........
Sorry for the problem, offered full refund w shipping for return, refused
Sorry for the problem, buyer given full refund
If you "shop" ebay CS, you may be able to get them removed with extortion proof....but anyone reading the feedback has no knowledge of the extortion attempts.....
05-07-2020 09:17 AM
Case in point; I had a buyer, who posted a "negative feedback", then indicated that he will remove the "negative feedback" if I refund him the money and he KEEPS the item.
How is that NOT considered as "EXTORTION"??? What possible justification is there for eBay to rule in favor of the buyer???
hate to be a buzz kill here, but i had a negative removed last week for this very reason...i used the twitter customer service account (@askebay)--i did have to message them twice, but they were really helpful when we finally connected. you might have better luck trying the twitter route (i got no help via email cs)...good luck!!!
05-07-2020 09:42 AM
Hi, be persistent in pursuing the removal. You might have to try several times before you get ahold of someone who can help you. Have the Feedback Extortion policy open in front of you and quote it to the rep and request they review your messages.
Right now i would absolutely want that negative removed, not because of what the buyer wrote, but because of the unfortunate follow-up response.
Not a good idea to name call in feedback, especially when the actual remark by the buyer is a matter-of-fact statement, yet the follow up is full of anger/outrage. It does not reflect well upon you. The point is to show prospective buyers how you respond to a problem in the transaction. A couple of negatives surrounded by lots of positive feedback is barely a pinprick and most buyers are savvy enough to know negatives are inevitable because there are folks who cannot be satisfied.
The follow-up comment in Feedback is the most valuable real estate on eBay. A well-worded response has the power to completely disarm the negative and, in fact, can make the seller more appealing despite the poor rating. Conversely, an ill-worded response can be much worse than the actual negative. Buyers want to feel their concerns will be heard, and that they will be treated with equanimity should the transaction go south.
05-07-2020 09:48 AM
@jack_bucks_ghost wrote:Case in point; I had a buyer, who posted a "negative feedback", then indicated that he will remove the "negative feedback" if I refund him the money and he KEEPS the item.
How is that NOT considered as "EXTORTION"??? What possible justification is there for eBay to rule in favor of the buyer???
hate to be a buzz kill here, but i had a negative removed last week for this very reason...i used the twitter customer service account (@askebay)--i did have to message them twice, but they were really helpful when we finally connected. you might have better luck trying the twitter route (i got no help via email cs)...good luck!!!
I agree. I've had negative feedback removed on more than one occasion. When the cs phones were up and running if you would ask for a feedback special or a supervisor. Now I find using the social media messaging system works best.
05-07-2020 09:52 AM
@oo8sunding wrote:Disputing a "Negative Feedback" on eBay is USELESS proposition, no matter how absurd/ridiculous/unjust a reason for the "Neg Feedback".
eBay automatically rules for the buyer no matter what. And they use the same wording "It's the buyer experience".
It seems like an automatic response generated by the system. "Dispute resolution" is not given any consideration.
Case in point; I had a buyer, who posted a "negative feedback", then indicated that he will remove the "negative feedback" if I refund him the money and he KEEPS the item.
How is that NOT considered as "EXTORTION"??? What possible justification is there for eBay to rule in favor of the buyer???
The only supposed remedy is to reply to the "Neg Feedback" and report the buyer to eBay. As if eBay cares!!!
Regards, stay safe everybody!
I'm curious here. What is the verbiage on the extortion message exactly? Please copy and paste it here. Ebay CS is VERY nitpicky with extortion eligibility. If you let us know what the message was exactly, some of us can tell you if it qualifies for removal under ebay's strict rules regardless of how obvious the message is.
A clear understanding of ebay's feedback extortion eligibility can help you in the long run. It has for me.
05-07-2020 10:48 AM
I'm sorry this happened but it isn't always useless. I've been able to get negatives removed without a problem. I once sold a poster to a buyer who left odd negative feedback not just for me but also a few other sellers. It said, "Caught on fire." I was so confused. I was advised here to call eBay which I did. eBay saw the buyer left the same odd feedback for multiple sellers. They removed it right away.
05-07-2020 11:05 AM
@faithandbutterflies wrote:I'm sorry this happened but it isn't always useless. I've been able to get negatives removed without a problem. I once sold a poster to a buyer who left odd negative feedback not just for me but also a few other sellers. It said, "Caught on fire." I was so confused. I was advised here to call eBay which I did. eBay saw the buyer left the same odd feedback for multiple sellers. They removed it right away.
What did they buy from you? A fire extinguisher?
05-07-2020 08:30 PM
As per your request, a message from the buyer on 04-30-2020 from manukyansuren222 :
"Issue me a full refund and I will remove my negative feedback".
He also opened a return request, but he also claims that he, supposedly, disposed of the item (I don't believe him)
so he will NOT return it.
I refuse to give in to extortion, because if word get around that I can I be extorted there is no end to it.
It's the same as not negotiating with terrorists.
05-07-2020 08:54 PM
05-07-2020 11:01 PM
Regardless of how you feel the buyer who receives a broken item is allowed to leave feedback. Also your reply may be removed if the buyer notices and calls Ebay.
05-08-2020 06:45 PM
Hi,
First, I have no control over USPS, it's not uncommon for items to be damaged during shipments.
Second, I would had been perfectly willing to refund the buyer, but he refuses to return it (Why?). Without the damaged item I can file a claim with the USPS and I can't reimbursed eBay commission.
I, wonder if it is really damaged or he scamming me.
Third, he demands refund in exchange for removing the "neg feedback".
If this is not the very definition of extortion, I don't know what is.
Regards.
05-08-2020 07:46 PM
@oo8sunding wrote:As per your request, a message from the buyer on 04-30-2020 from manukyansuren222 :
"Issue me a full refund and I will remove my negative feedback".
He also opened a return request, but he also claims that he, supposedly, disposed of the item (I don't believe him)
so he will NOT return it.
I refuse to give in to extortion, because if word get around that I can I be extorted there is no end to it.
It's the same as not negotiating with terrorists.
Did you try twitter or facebook as suggested? There are real people who you can get to read the messages between you and the buyer.