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Damaged return.

Sold a glass statue and it was returned with a chip, well you know glass buyers one chip and forget it.

So I called ebay and the rep said not to refund the buyer. They said let the buyer call them and complain then they would initiate the refund and then I can call and appeal. That sounds hokey to me, won't that strike against me for not refunding? Then I can call? but what am I doing now? I am calling now to take care of this, why ebay, why?

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Damaged return.

Right. That's why I send my own return labels. I don't use ebay labels at all.

If it was a remorse return, and the buyer paid return shipping and bought the label from ebay....those labels don't have insurance included either? Asking because I really do not know.
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Damaged return.

Actually...

 

Depending how you shipped there may be USPS-provided insurance up to either $50 or $100 (I forgot which) for Priority Mail, whether that applies to returns or not and I am also pretty certain that calling the USPS will yield about as good a fruit as calling ebay's CS did...

 

I would try perhaps to get into the USPS on your account and see if there's a claim you can file, you may have to fill in some online forms and make sure to have tracking number handy and all of that, again I can't say for sure if there's coverage ...

 

 

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Damaged return.

OK, here's some policy links...

 

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2018-summer/simplified-returns.html

 

Partial refunds
As we announced in our 2018 Spring Seller Update, when you offer free returns, you can decide to issue partial refundsto buyers when the item is returned in an altered condition. We have created a new condition of returned items policyto educate buyers that the returned item must be in the same condition in which it was received.
If you do not offer free returns, you will still be able to issue a partial refund for items returned in an altered condition in select categories including Business & Industrial, Parts & Accessories, Collectibles & Art, Cameras & Photo, Medical, Mobility & Disability Equipment, Home Improvement, Furniture, Musical Instruments & Gear, and Yard, Garden & Outdoor.
 
And here's the link that specifically says that Pottery & Glass is included in the Collictibles category for this policy...
 
 
So, you can deduct some of the refund for your poor rooster. Not sure whether it's 10%, 20% or 50%. Looks like maybe only 10% or 20%. Stinks IMO, but better than nothing.
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Damaged return.

I took a closer look at your listing. You offered Free Returns, so you can deduct 50% from the refund for the damage.
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Damaged return.

I do not know if that is true.
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Damaged return.

Thanks for the tip!!!
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Damaged return.

Thanks for the tip. And then take the neg? 

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@kept2long wrote:

Thanks for the tip. And then take the neg? 


You may want to take a look at the policy on Free Returns as I think it will help you.  Ebay offers FB protection for sellers that have Free Returns if they use the partial refund policy as stated in the Free Returns policy.

 

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2018-spring/seller-protection.html

 


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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Damaged return.

Awesome, better than nothing, thanks.

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@kept2long wrote:

Awesome, better than nothing, thanks.


@kept2long

 

Better than nothing???  It is a pretty nice perk that sellers with other return policies do not get.  You voiced a concern about getting a neg if you did a partial refund.  I provided you a link that shows you don't need to have that fear as Ebay will protect you if you use the program correctly.  I'd say that is pretty darn good!!!


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999
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Damaged return.

Dude, don't take eBay's word for anything. They will say anything to get you off the phone.

 

I just had an issue with a damaged remorse return, called up eBay to discuss it and was told it's no problem, don't refund just yet and we will take care of you when the time comes. His words were "I see you messaged the buyer to let him know that his refund is coming but that you need to deal with eBay and the USPS first, that's good. The buyer has not complained yet so just wait on refunding him until he does"

 

After i filed the insurance claim on the package, I called them back once the payout was approved in order to be covered for the remaining amount since it only was insured for the basic $50 because of it being a return label.

 

The rep was super helpful, very nice, understanding and accomodating. We worked it out so that he would just hook me up with a coupon for the remaining amount since I could use it to buy supplies anyways.

 

I made it a point to ask him if i should go ahead and issue the refund on my end since I was worried that I may end up with a defect if he did it for me, and I was promised no defects, told I'd get my final value fee back as well as my promoted listings fee.

 

Trouble is, it was all bulls**t and the next day I had a big fat defect because he took it upon himself to open a case on my behalf in order to close it in the buyer's favor after he told me not to refund on my end. I called back and spoke with a woman named Ara who was rude, condecending, lied, and refused to let me get a word in without acting like I was an idiot.

 

She told me it was impossibe to get rid of the defect, that there is no way she could do it since the system makes it impossible. When I asked for a superviser, she told me she was the supervisor and there was no person higher up than her. We went back and forth for at least 15 minutes before she slipped and said she couldn't do anything, and only her supervisor (who she said she did not have) could do anything. 

 

I told her I wanted to talk to the superviser, and refused a call back letting her check in with me every 2 minutes for a good while as she "looked for him". In the end, I had the defect removed, and the best she could do was refund me the final value fee. Suppoably she sent an email to the previous rep who promised me the coupon in order to verrify, but I don't really believe that email was ever sent. Ill call back later and waste more of their time about that.

 

Bottom line, they will lie to you to get you off the phone. This is not the first time and not the second or thrid time they have done that with me. Always get their names, reference number for the call, note the time and day you spoke to them, and if you want to go a step futher, let them know you are recording the phone call yourself when you speak with them.

 

As it stands now, if you do as they ask, they will hit you with a defect and you will lose your final value fee as well. When you call to complain about that, they will probably have no record of anybody telling you to do that. Really your best bet is to file an insurance claim on the damage if it happened in shipping.

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Damaged return.

If eBay refused to get between us, that would solve half the problems. They put their selves in the middle of our business too much as it is, and it's usually never in our favor.
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Damaged return.

Not true, you just have to be a big enough pain for them to do what you want them to do. If I had a nickle for every time I was told it was impossible when it turned out not to be, well I'd have a couple bucks.
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Damaged return.

That's where it's going to head if eBay does not step up to the plate for their sellers. All the good sellers will leave and then the buyers can enjoy the scammers and lousy sellers that will be left.

I know you have to protect your buyers, but by protecting your sellers, you are ensuring the good ones that the buyers want to purchase from will stick around.
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Priority has the standard $50

I just had to deal with that myself on a package valued higher than that. Its time to look into providing my own when I do get a return valued at more than the standard $50.

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