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Condition question

I have a new in package vintage ironing board cover. It's sealed, but the plastic packaging is pretty beat up, and there's a tear in the package.  Category is ironing board covers and accessories. Conditions in the dropdown are new, open box, manufacturer refurbished, seller refurbished, used and for parts/not working.

 

So...is it NEW, since it's unopened and still sealed in the package? Or is it USED, because even though it's unopened, the package is so beat up?

 

This is why we need a new old stock designation - for stuff like this.

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With what the other sellers have suggested about the elastic possibly being damaged or worn out due to age you may want to 1st take pictures of the package showing that the item was still sealed. Then open it up to confirm the condition of the elastic. Then show pictures demonstrating the elastic is still in good shape. Include in your listing why you have done this and what condition the elastic is in so the buyer can buy with confidence and there will be no return issue as you will already know if the elastic is bad. Then if it is bad to begin with list the it at a slightly lower price as someone will want it or even be willing to try and replace the elastic.

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If someone is offended by a bra strap then too bad for them. Too many women are judgmental of other women for stupid reasons imho. Much more critical than men.

 

Im 55 and I’m not going to adhere to beliefs from another century. This is not Victorian England and I also show my ankles in public. Guess that makes me a hussy. Lol. 

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

I have a new in package vintage ironing board cover. It's sealed, but the plastic packaging is pretty beat up, and there's a tear in the package.  Category is ironing board covers and accessories. Conditions in the dropdown are new, open box, manufacturer refurbished, seller refurbished, used and for parts/not working.

 

So...is it NEW, since it's unopened and still sealed in the package? Or is it USED, because even though it's unopened, the package is so beat up?

 

This is why we need a new old stock designation - for stuff like this.


@southern*sweet*tea 

 

Assuming that you have already triple-checked that the tear in the packaging has not damaged the item ......

 

with the limited drop-down menu options for condition of:

 

"new, open box, manufacturer refurbished, seller refurbished, used and for parts/not working." .........

 

I would go with NEW as the condition since it has never neen used and it is in the original package that is in poor condition.

 

I would explain in detail all of the condition issues of the original package, and I would include as many as you can ..... nice, clear close-up pictures of the condition flaws of the original package.

 

That way, the condition issues of the original package have been both described and pictured .... so there would be no justification for a buyer to SNAD you on either the packaging or on the condition of the item.

 

 

 

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Seriously - moral stand or mere rebellion?

 

Am I glad we’re more open-minded these days? Yes. Did some attitudes need to go? Absolutely.

 

 Is some modernity just laziness? Yep. 

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As you know categories and sub, sub, sub, etc categories are very specific to each category.  I doubt there would be many ironing board covers in a old new stock condition?  I do not see your point that this should be added to categories as a general rule and especially not to the ironing board cover accessories categories/subcategory?

 

Good Luck Selling!

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@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:

If someone is offended by a bra strap then too bad for them. Too many women are judgmental of other women for stupid reasons imho. Much more critical than men.

 

Im 55 and I’m not going to adhere to beliefs from another century. This is not Victorian England and I also show my ankles in public. Guess that makes me a hussy. Lol. 


I didn't use the words shocked, offended or hussy, or Victorian, so don't lay a prude label on me please  I notice what people wear. I notice what I wear in public and think about it before I get in the car.  Sometimes just before when I look down and go eeek!

 

I don't wear colors that I think aren't good for my skin tone.  

 

I don't go out in shorts because I have severe sarcoidosis on my legs.  I don't like to look at it and don't figure anyone else much wants to either, nor do I want to be asked questions about it by curious people some of whom might worry that it's contagious.  It's not.

 

I don't go out in my jammies.  Or harem pants. Or in curlers. Or housecoats. Or kaftans.  And that's nothing to do with prudery or Victorian values.  

 

I went to a funeral last month.  Was my decision not to wear my jeans and a tank top because I didn't want to be judged by other women?  No.  It was because I didn't want to be judged by myself and come up short in the appropriate department.   

 

When I was still working, I never used to participate in casual Friday because part of the pleasure of getting home from work, for me, was the ritual of getting out of my professional clothes and getting into my comfy clothes.  Wearing those comfy clothes to work would have spoiled my ritual. But I did ask my staff who were meeting with an important client on Friday's to forego the casual attire - when you have a $1M contact on the line with a thus-and-so client, dockers and a golf shirt just doesn't help seal the deal.

 

I do notice outfits that clash or look unattractive (IMO) but then clothing is what I buy and sell, so if I wouldn't show a bra and and a tank top together on a mannequin (and I wouldn't)  I'm going to notice it on a human being in public.  I'm not going to point and laugh, say anything to them, complain to the manager, try to get them banned from the store, but my eye is drawn to outfits (on both men and women).     

 

Likewise, as a seller,  I wouldn't display  a pair of white pants with dark thong underwear underneath.  What target audience would I be trying to attract with pics like that?

 

I suspect somehow even the person I saw today wouldn't look at such pics in an eBay ad and think Wow. I gotta have that!

 

But I could be wrong.  After all, that's what she was wearing.  Still....I kind of doubt it.

 

Is that being critical or judgmental? And is that a bad thing, if so.   I don't know anyone who isn't critical and judgmental about something.  Those who deny being critical and judgmental of people are often, in my opinion, kind of in denial about it not to mention, being kind of critical and judgmental of the people they're saying are being critical and judgmental. 

 

It's like people who announce that they don't see color. Unless they simply can't see, they're kidding everybody including themselves.

 

Everybody's a critic and a judge about something. Best not to be in denial about it, but also to try not to blurt it out at people under the fresh modern umbrella of being tired of political correctness so Call it like you see it. that's so in vogue these days.

 

Are woman more critical than men?   I think that's highly debatable.  But that's a longer discussion.  

 

 

 

 


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Very well said.

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@city*satins wrote:

I will do just about anything to avoid my undergarments showing, even THROUGH my clothes. 

 

Different generation, maybe?  I dunno.  


Well, I'm in my 30s and I think visible bra straps (or any underwear) are tacky as heck too.  That's literally why strapless bras/racerback bras exist, there's no excuse these days.  Like red3rose said, underwear is UNDERwear.  I don't want to see a guy's boxers sticking out of his waistband either.

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@this*old*attic wrote:

They make racer back and cross strap bras, too. Just sayin’..... 🤪🤪🤪


But for some reason unknown they don't seem to make bras these days that aren't padded. Whatever happened to bras that were just lace cups with a little underwire?

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For reals.

 

But you gotta admit - 1st world problem.

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City,

  When a kid comes into our B&M with his pants half down and wants to know if we are hiring I just assume he really doesn't want a job. Andrew

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