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Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

I thought they wanted to do away with CommPlus? They didn't get approval for that?



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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017


@david*42 wrote:

The new rates for Commercial Plus are still about 3% lower than the Commercial Base rates.

 

http://www.prc.gov/docs/97/97526/Notice%20CP2017-20.pdf



aha!!!

 

I read it, but it's like IRS forms, just mud...... one  place they don't want to publish commercial plus because it puts them at a competitive disadvantage......another place they throw in com+ was matched to Commercial rate......  another that the "existing structure"  is maintained, then later priority international may negotiate lower rates for commercial plus......sigh.........

 

 

Thanks @david*42

 
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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

Ignore the text; the price charts tell you everything you need to know:

 

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017


@klassic*kids wrote:

@sodelight wrote:
It just never ends! These constant annual price hikes will be the death of online sales yet. Tired of seeing the shipping carrier and ebay/paypal take the bulk of any sale, leaving a seller with peanuts. One can only increase prices so much before buyers stop buying, of which many already have! The higher these shipping rates get the more ebay makes with their 10% chunk off the top, and the less the seller gets!

@sodelight I was thinking the same.  This is going to turn people off of buying online.

 

The vast majority of my shipments are FCP and I sliding scale charge pf $3.25 - $4.00 depending on their weight. Now with the jolt increase in FCP especially for 12 - 15.99 ounces I am going to have to figure out a new price point charge and change all my listings.  Thanks USPS! ... I have not doubt these excessive new costs are going to impact my sales and online sales in general. 


Yup, I knew it was too good to be true that you could ship a package just under a pound for les than $3! A 15% increase is ridiculous! The up to 8 ozs for $2.60 was also nice, all of this sure didn't take too long to change, I think it only lasted a few months! Of course folks who never mail a package have no idea how expensive it has become to ship and think sellers are overcharging!

 

Everything goes UP except our income, sellers have to constantly reduce prices to remain competitive or sell at all.

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017


@sodelight wrote:
 ... The up to 8 ozs for $2.60 was also nice, all of this sure didn't take too long to change, I think it only lasted a few months! ....


8 ounces for $2.60 has been the online rate since last January.

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

Will China sellers see an increase from like 8¢ to maybe 9¢ or 10¢ seeing they also use our USPS service to ship their junk over here, or are we just going to continue eating that cost. I find it very sad that it cost me $4.30 to send a 15.9999 ounce package across the street, yet Chinese sellers can send items all the way from China through the USPS for a few pennies.

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

thats not true. i ship every day with commercial plus and cubic rate comercial plus on every package i ship (either one or the other)
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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

Thanks.  

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

That's a GREAT question. I packed some stuff today and I can already see that First Class Shipping has gone up. The Padded Legal Envelope which I used the most has gone up to $6.30 and it was like $5.90. The Legal Flat Rate Envelope was like $6.05 or something it was $5.90 same as Legal and the Flat Rate Envelope was $5.05 and now it was like a lot more. So I think they have had way too many price increases. Yet some countries ship here for FREE and they deliver it to us. I guess that's the whole TPP and Fair Trade Aggreement thing that many aren't aware of. but they could be stable for a while to give us a chance to CATCH up. Have any of you noticed the rate increase. It seems they keep going up like twice in one year.
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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

 you. I didn't see it. Lucky for you. I used to pay $5.05 for flat rate and today I paid like $6.00 that was like a dollar more. Then the padded flat rate was like $5.90 and now it's like $6.30.  So I see the increase but seriously they could hold off  and rate increase like every 5 years or every 3 years. This is crazy. They nickle and dime us and I already have to cut rates just to compete and sell on here. I see people selling stuff that  It looks like they are paying people to buy. Like if you have a used pair of jeans and they were your own you sell them for $8.00 and you have final value fee, paypal fee, listing fee, insertion fee, and SHIPPING. Plus you had to have tape, pkg etc unless you got them for free. but you have to spend money to get those free Ebay pkgs items and tape.  However, how do these people make money. It's some people who cannot COUNT money.  The new charts that we get on Ebay really help me to set my priorities and see that I'm really not making much money after the items sit there a long time, I pay when they don't sell.  But Shipping is expensive and  I just feel like everyone on here should admit that they have to pay for shipping. FREE Shipping  is the one everyone likes but it is REALLY FREE when WE have to pay and they want a GREAT price for the item But then if it 's too cheap they think it's worthless.  Well I'm not happy about the USPS Rate increase but it is what it is.  I guess they feel like they can squeeze us and we have to pay so that some other countries can ship for FREE. That's not even FAIR at all. BAHHHH HUMBUG

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017


westhollywoodboutique wrote: ... . It seems they keep going up like twice in one year.

The last rate increase was in January 2016.

 

Retail rates for First Class packages were changed twice since then due to a legal glitch but everything else was the same for a full year.

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

Those regional rates during 2016 were like $5.05 and the huge boxes were great for shipping  they had these huge boxes you could put like 15 lbs of clothing in and ship for like $20.00 but they discontinued those boxes in the summer of 2016 and then they went up on REg. A and Reg B boxes and in my opinion the rate is not worth it. Because they were $5.05 and I always knew my zones. I loved them but now they are like $9  it's just not really worth it.  I can ship it in a larger flat rate box especially if they buy more items. Because I can't really fit that much in the zone Regional boxes and I have to store them. I'm taking mine back to post office.   BUt it's interesting to see your point of view. I liked Smart Post FEDEX but they don't do things right. They seem to have flaws and FEDEX changes the rates even if you drop off at FEDEX they weigh when you get there. They change the rates somewhere along the line. I don't like that at all.   When I was there they could have said. Oh it's going to cost more and told me why and i could have cancelled the print off and sent it another way. But I always add extra couple of ounces anyway to cover any mistakes. But sure enough they don't care it's more money for them. But sometimes it takes FOREVER for the pkg to arrive. I rather pay post offic to take it the entire way. I havent' been using UPS. has anyone been using UPS??? I used to use them all the time in California because it was right across the street from our office but now it's too far.

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017

After reading thru this enite post, it occurs to me that everyone has forgotten the USPS is trying to be a real business and not just another branch of the government.

All the prices changes are simply an adjustments as USPS tries to become profitable and not be part of our inflated government structure.

 

In addition, they are still the best deal in town on rates compared to FedX and UPS and they deliver 6 days a week.  And Amazon is now keeping the USPS buisness busy 7 days a week with Sunday deliveries.

 

Yes, it is painful to have to modify our prices, sometimes twice per year, but all of us are in the same boat.  It just that some are not as smart as other and don't adjust their  prices immediately and so they might be harder to compete with but they are making less money in the long run and most likely will disappear as a competitor.

 

Yes, it is painful to watch China come into the eBay market place and it feels unfair but this is not our general governement controlling the postal rates for China. It is the United Nations Universal Postal Union.

 

"The UPU helps coordinate rates and standards between nearly every national postal system, and has been a crucial piece of global infrastructure since its founding in 1874 (it was absorbed into the United Nations only in the 20th century). But critics argue that the system now amounts to a subsidy for international shipping from developing countries and net exporters."

Basically, the United Nations is helping subsidize Chinese shipping. All though, the United States goverment is the largest provider of financial contributions to the United Nations, providing 22 percent of the UN budget in 2015, and 28 percent of the peacekeeping budget.  So one can hope that if someone in the Whitehouse could get their act together to leverage changes in the UPC to benefit the US more.

 

"The UPU system is extremely complex, with countries slotted into at least nine different categories, which are based on their level of development and effect the terminal dues rates they pay to each other. This means that in many if not most cases, the U.S. Postal Service received less compensation for a China Post package moved from a Los Angeles port to its final destination inland, than it would have from someone in Los Angeles who sent an identical package within the United States. In some cases, terminal dues are below, not just the domestic customer price, but the real underlying cost of shipping. Many developed countries, with higher postal costs in wages, services, or infrastructure, actually lose money on each piece of mail sent to them internationally. "

 

"The impact of this imbalance has grown over the past five years with the rise of international e-commerce through platforms like eBay nd Aliexpress, a consumer-oriented sister site of Alibaband Aliexpress, a consumer-oriented sister site of Alibaba. The volume of small packages from developing countries into developed nations has exploded as an ever-greater portion of international trade moves through national posts, rather than through commercial shipping routes to wholesalers.

 

The last UPU congress was in 2016. "National governments haven’t paid much attention to the UPU, and representation is largely left to loosely supervised postal service heads. This means high-cost postal systems like Norway’s will continue to lose money on inbound mail, while businesses in developed countries continue to face the pressure of artificially cheap international shipping."

 

In General, do not expect to see signs of big changes coming.   We are going to have to embrace the China competitors for now until bigger forces than us eBayers, decide to revamp the outdate UPU system.  

 

Let's hope that eBay does not allow massive influx of sellers from China in the mean time.

 

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Re: Chart For New USPS Shipping Starting Jan. 22, 2017


@glassartpatternswrote:

 

Let's hope that eBay does not allow massive influx of sellers from China in the mean time. 

I think you're a little too late with that thought.

 

P.S. This topic is from 6 months ago and I'm sure there will be another postage hike next January. It happens every year.

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